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26 teams have at least 5 playoff wins since our last playoff win...
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(12-12-2017, 10:23 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Once again, I'm not excusing Mike brown. I never have. I wish like hell Mike would have dealt with Marvin and Alexnder years ago and there is no excuse for that. With Mike, I believe it's more about keeping his friends and family happy than embracing mediocrity. He is far too loyal to subpar coaches because they are his buddies outside of the business. He is also in denial, he honestly believed Marvin could get him a super bowl. But I think it's incredibly obvious our struggles on the field are mainly due to coaching. There's been a pattern of choking under Marv for over a decade. After much roster turnover, it's still the same. At some point, it's not a coincidence. The team still falls apart in big games, even with different players.

Stop acting like the 90's have never left. We made the playoffs 5 years in a row, won a few division titles and beat some damn good football teams (at 1:00). We have/had talent. Management is responsible for acquiring that talent. Marvin is responsible for getting the most out of that talent. But he doesn't. Never has. Not when it really counts, anyway. Hard to believe, I know, but for the most part this management team has given him the roster to succeed. But Primetime and playoffs, the lights go on and what happens? Choke artist Marv and bungle football rears its ugly head. 

Things are not as dire as you believe. If Mike brings back Marvin after this mess, then yes. Things will be as gloomy as you see them now. But Marv is likely on his way out in 3 short weeks. And maybe Mike will be passing the torch as well. Not much longer until we know for sure. 

Provided we make a decent hire, you'll see things improve when we have a new HC. I'm not claiming a super bowl is on the horizon... But a trip back to the playoffs next year? A definite possibility 

Of course no one rolls out of bed saying they want to be mediocre...but when you keep a coach who is 0-7 in the playoffs...whay is that saying?

Most of our 'talent' was the result of 2 GREAT drafts. Our drafts since then have been average to bad. The past 5 years almost all of our drafts have been below average.

You know teams can get lucky drafting a guy like Atkins. It isn't like they're consistently drafting Pro Bowl players.

The time to fire Lewis was 3 years ago. Now we need 4 new lineman, 2 new LB's, a WR2, a DT next to Atkins, and changes at CB.

It's just like when Lazor took over and people acted like our offense would be great because of a coaching change. The issue wasn't Zampese. It was the personnel.
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RE: 26 teams have at least 5 playoff wins since our last playoff win... - THE PISTONS - 12-13-2017, 12:19 AM

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