12-19-2017, 05:41 AM
(12-18-2017, 02:48 PM)depthchart Wrote: I'm at work with little time.
Can some of you Compare & Contrast the Vikings with the Bengals ? (in part, since they have the same Defensive System as we do)
What is their Cap number versus ours ?
I hear they spent more in Free Agency ? How much more ?
Are they Spending a lot more Money Overall ?
Is it that they are just Drafting better ?
Are things somewhat equal in the "Overall Spending" area but the Coaching is the difference ? Or do they spend significantly more ?
Are their Coordinators & Assistants really better paid ? If so, by how much ?
Etc...
Did we PEAK out at a competitive Spending number in 2015 and then backed it down a lot relative to the 2017 team & the 2017 Cap ?
In other words, are we Spending money "Competitively" when compared to the Vikings ?
Or is it more about them having better Football minds making their decisions ? or a combination of both ?
Compare & Contrast the 2017 Vikings versus the 2017 Bengals (with an eye on our 2015 team as our recent Peak Roster under Mike Brown) to gauge our chances going forward.
I have a feeling it may be less about spending Money and more about having solid NFL people making the decisions.
If we won't spend competitively AND won't get Top Notch NFL people to make the decisions then we are Double screwed going forward.
TO THE OP : WE DON"T HAVE THE SAME DEFENSIVE SYSTEM .....Once Paul Brown died, he was gone. Once Sam Wyche was fired, Bengals tried to run his offense but as Bob Trump told Collinsworth on WLW Radio that's impossible. Once the coach is gone, the system is gone. ...So we DO NOT have the Zimmer Defense because Zimmer is in Minnesota. They have the Zimmer defense now. ...We do still have a Marvin Lewis system, but I hear that is about to change....
So again to the OP : WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME SYSTEM AS MINNESOTA. ZIMMER IS GONE AND TOOK HIS SYSTEM WITH HIM. OUR COACHES NOW ARE NOT ZIMMER AND SO NOT THE SAME SYSTEM.
Remember that any time you lose a coach, you lose the system....Steelers no longer have LeBeau system. They may think they do, but they don't. Once the coach is gone, the system is gone. We lost the Zimmer system when he left. New coaches bring in their own systems. ...I'll add that if we had Zimmer in 2015 play-off game against Steelers, he has more control over Burfict and Pacman and never lets his D lose focus giving up 30 yards in 2 separate unsportsmanlike penalties in same play to put Steelers in last second game winning field goal range. We missed Zimmer RIGHT THERE. He would have taken his players aside on the sidelines during that game and kept them in focus, pounding home that the Steelers were trying to get them mad and upset and playing stupid football. ......You don't see the Vikings defense playing stupid football like ours, and you won't, because Zimmer won't let his players get so out of focus. WE NO LONGER HAVE THE ZIMMER SYSTEM.
1968 Bengal Fan
