End of the "Dalton Scale"?

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(05-21-2015, 01:50 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I don't think the Steelers win 4 Super Bowls with Terry Hanratty and Cliff Stoudt as the QB, though.  Bradshaw was a no-brainer first overall pick that has 4 Super Bowl rings...why do some people insist there is some sort of doubt about his viability?  I can see a QB lucking his way into 1 Super Bowl win (ala Pig Ben in 2005) but not 2+ (ala Pig Ben in 2008, unfortunately).

I'm just saying that Bradshaw isn't Marino, Montana, or Manning even if he has the rings. His overall stats aren't impressive for his career, but he's not a bad QB. It's really hard to compare statistics with modern athletes to guys from the older eras, but here is something interesting to note.

In Bradshaw's SB runs, his playoff passer rating was 104, 98.5, 95, and 68.4. While he may have been busy throwing 25 INT in the regular season of '79, he decided to turn it on in the playoffs with a 98.5 passer rating leading to a Super Bowl victory.

Now, it reminds me more of a guy like Joe Flacco or Eli Manning than anything else. A lot of people (around here at least) don't give Joe or Eli much credit because they aren't the most fancy regular season QBs, but they've both had absurd playoff runs and they look like completely different QBs.

If Bradshaw's only Super Bowl ring was where he had a sub 70 rating, things would be a lot different. Even in that 3 game run, he had a 4th quarter game winning drive though.

I wasn't trying to say that Bradshaw lucked into the rings, but if you look at career stats alone, his aren't too pretty. You don't NEED good stats to be a good QB, but how often do great QBs have mediocre or worse statistics? That's my point. Some wacky homers try to say Andy's good, but there isn't much proof of that, at least yet. He threw a lot of TDs 1 year in his career and people cling to that like it's the greatest accomplishment of all time. He doesn't have the stats, he doesn't have the big wins, and he doesn't have the playoff performances. You can't have 0 of those 3 things and be considered a good QB. I don't know how anyone could disagree with that. As I always say, it's a team sport so I'm not really hung up on W/L for a QB, but even if you are, he hasn't won anything past some regular season games while having mediocre stats and shitty playoff performances. Even if you're a casual fan that's totally bonkers for stats and wins, he's STILL not in the "good" category. There's almost no possible way to make him seem like a good QB unless you say your only criteria is 2013 TD passes and regular season win totals.