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Dalton is a legitimate team leader.
Dalton is a try-hard/fake leader, and NFL players can detect that.
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Leadership is earned, not appointed.
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(08-25-2015, 02:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: None of us can judge Dalton's leadership because we are not inside of the team.

Seriously, how do you guys decide if Dalton is a leader or not? You can't just base it on how well the team plays  Otherwise you would be stuck arguing that Mark Sanchez was a great leader when the Jets were playing in back-to-back Conference Championship games or that Brett Favre was a poor leader in '05 when the packers went 4-12.

So how exactly are we supposed to tell if dalton is a leader or not?

Look no further:

http://www.bengals.com/media-lounge/videos/Pregame-Huddle-Wild-Card-Colts/15e8ffa9-dfc2-4dd5-bc7f-836839c932dc

This off-season, it felt like Whit just said "$%&@ it, we'll let Dalton do it" after he got upset about his future with the team. You can also watch interviews with Andy and get a feel for what he's like (cornball, would make a great summer camp leader but not an NFL huddle). If you think he becomes some kind of convincing leader when the cameras are off him, you will probably be disappointed. All this to say it's disturbing that Dalton was "given" the leadership role; the baton was "passed" to him.

Adam Jones, please save us. [Image: default_pray.gif]

Sweetness Wrote:While I agree that Dalton doesn't appear to be the best leader; your synopsis on why he's a bad leader and how McCarron "showed far better leadership" is simply baffling. I understand it was a horrible game to watch and a pitiful performance by the team, but come on man.
 
I never said he played stunning or mistake-free football. He did not have the deer in the headlights look that Dalton has any time things go wrong. There were many things that went wrong, but the entire time he looked like he commanded the huddle and believed he'd come back on the next drive and right the ship (which he did on the TD drive). When things start going horribly wrong, Dalton has that familiar look like he just soiled himself a little and you can't say it doesn't rub off on the whole team when "Bad Andy" shows up. Can it really be argued McCarron looked like a more confident, convincing leader? After the safety he was like "ain't no thing" and came back for a TD drive. The "Dalton Way" is letting it snowball, being a try-hard and throwing them another pick.
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RE: Leadership is earned, not appointed. - GarbageDisposal - 08-25-2015, 04:00 PM

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