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Target removes gender based signage for kids
(08-25-2015, 12:37 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Many people who suffer from alcoholism and obesity have a genetic predisposition to both.

Thanks for the insight.


However, that is not why they ended up obese or an alcoholic. Environmental factors/social factors played a much bigger role is them getting it.

This is what many of you keep ignoring about this whole genetic argument.

Genetic predisposition can contribute to the development of a disease, but it will not directly cause it. Some with a certain predisposing genetic variation will never get it, while others can, even inside of the same family/genetic line.


(08-25-2015, 05:46 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Why?  Because he never made any such comparison.  Your accusation is completely false.  Mike M basically asked for the sensitivity and specificity of a DNA test for homosexuality and Pat made a facetious comment about DNA testing and autism.  The purpose of his comment wasn't to compare autism and homosexuality, but rather to indicate the ridiculous nature of Mike M's request for information regarding a test which doesn't exist.

Again, completely false.  Mike M linked a article which suggested people "grow out" of their genes.  I didn't compare eye color or the genetics of eye color to homosexuality or the genetics of homosexuality.  The eye color comment was directed towards how people "grow out" of their genes.

The test is a false one from the start. You will be able to find certain markers/mutations that could contribute to it and increase the probability of someone getting a disease but:

Genetic predisposition can contribute to the development of a disease, but it will not directly cause it.

Let's not go to far off topic, but just an interesting tidbit about eye color:
A person's eye colors can change. For example, during pregnancy the pigmentation in the eyes gets darker. 15% of people report that it changes after puberty. Other things such as the food you eat, or stress can also alter your eye color. Age can also change the color of your eyes.

Genetics is nothing more than a recipe book. It gives you the recipe to create the proteins that make up the pigmentation in the eyes, and like a cook who uses the same recipe over and over again, sometimes the results might not always the same. IE Flame on oven hotter/colder, ingredients not as pure as previous time(s) etc.

But again, all of those instances are environmental factors, and not due to some hereditary genetic gene(s).

I think you get the picture, so I won't go further.
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RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - Mike M (the other one) - 08-25-2015, 07:46 PM

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