Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘s***hole’ countries

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(01-13-2018, 12:48 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Private negotiations are still private.   Also Dick Durbin has a history of telling porky pies about these meetings in the past.   But hey don’t let that get in the way of your trump hate right?  

Right...
...yeah I don't know about Dick Durbin. But it's not like he made that remarks up, obviously. When an US president uses words like these in a meeting with senators from both sides, it's quite plausible they get out there. That's just how it is.

(01-13-2018, 12:48 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Look mate,   I don’t want any immigration from the third world because they are all crap holes.   I want a point system to weed out the people who have the best chance for success.    Whether they come from crapholes or western nations each should be valued based on merit.   This is exactly why we need the point system.   You don’t have to worry about anything when you just base it on merit.

When you say "whether they come from crapholes or western countries", I don't really take issue. It's a legit position I don't share, and one of the main reasons for me not sharing it is that Norwegians sure do not clean up US hotel rooms or take care of the elderly or pick fruits. That's jobs you leave to Mexicans etc. (just like we do). Hard to determine how "merit based" gives a young immigrant from Mexico or Haiti or a "shithole" a chance to better his life by doing a job an American won't do. Her/his merit is the willingness to live in the US and contribute to society there. Both things are essential of course.

But however it is, Trump didn't argue for "merit based" in that particular instance, he argued that people from a shithole country are shit and the US needs none of those people. Obviously. And it's true that he doesn't get benefit of the doubt from me here, I don't question who told the press or if the words were out of context or whatever reason that can't be the reason always. Remember, Haitians also "all have AIDS", and I see no reason to believe he didn't say that either, and all the other things. There's a pattern.