01-18-2018, 02:29 PM
(01-18-2018, 12:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Your fix would be correct if I was only talking about Trump. I was not, I was referring to the GOP controlled Congress as well. Whether Trump has a mandate or whether his approval ratings (which are likely as useful and accurate as the myriad polls that said he'd lose on election day) doesn't change the fact that he was elected and should attempt to effect his agenda for entirety of his term. The point I've been making is that the GOP is doing what they said they'd do, the Dems are minority party in every possible way and still conduct themselves as if they should get whatever they want however they want it.
I'll reiterate, the Dems want to shut down the federal government, a move that will hurt US citizens, because they aren't getting exactly what they want for people in the country illegally. This isn't really disputable.
(01-18-2018, 01:04 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: That's not how our government works. Congress passes a bill, the POTUS signs the bill or vetos it. There was no "deal" that would pass both chambers of Congress to even get to Trump. For anyone to able to say Trump denies a "deal" he'd have to to be given a bill to sign.
What you're missing in all of this is that they did have a deal that they had a whip count for that could pass both chambers. Trump shot it down because it wasn't what he wanted. They don't typically put bills like this on the floor without a favorable whip count, so the meeting was to hammer out any details before putting it on the floor. Trump decided to be a petulant child and not back the bipartisan deal that could've passed the chambers and funded the government. If they know he is going to veto, they aren't going to put it out there because they likely won't have the votes to override.
