Todd Haley Fired

[BengalYankee]

(01-20-2018, 02:59 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: 6-10
7-9 
7-9
11-5 (won a playoff game)
5-11 started off the year 3-1. lost to the oilers 37-10 on Nov 5th. The next day, Modell announced they were moving after months of speculation. They finished the year 1-7 but they managed to beat those 7-9 Bengals twice. 

I'd be pretty hard pressed to find anyone other than you or a Browns hater that would dispute he was improving the Browns prior to 1995.

I am NOT saying that Tomlin is a better coach then Belichick. Not saying that at all. 

Back to the beginning. 
You stated that Tomlin had a HOF QB. True
I replied, so did Cowher. True
Then I said by the way BB also has a HOF QB. True
Then I did some research and realized BB does NOT have a stellar career without Brady, in fact he has a losing record without Brady.

If the issue is Cowher/Tomlin only won because they had HOF QB's, then Joe Gibbs was a genius, who won in multiple years[3] without a HOF QB.

Tomlin may go 0-16 without Big Ben. The jury is still out. In fact, one thing we both can agree to. We can't wait for Big Ben to retire and more importantly, we both want the Steelers to feel a 0-16 record.