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Jersusalem "off the table"
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(01-31-2018, 04:37 PM)Dill Wrote: Lucy, sounds like you are saying it is ok to steal land from others if you do something you think "better" with it. Did I hear you right?

I am guessing you don't know a lot about reservation politics, based upon your casino comments. But somehow you have "heard" a lot about all the freebies first peoples get? People pay them for just sitting around?

The Palestinians elected leaders did not drive them out of Palestine and take their land. Jewish immigrants from Europe did that in 1947, 56, and 67.

Israel is an ethnic, settler state. They do not want Palestinians to join their citizenry and gain voting rights. Any Jew from anywhere in the world has a "right of return," but not Palestinians. 

Taking people's land by force is a violation of human rights.  You would certainly think so if the Israelis took your property and made "something better" out of it. 

BTW When you support taking people's land by force because the takers can make more money that way--as you do with native Americans and Palestinians--then you indeed support the violation of their human rights. You are saying might makes right, and you defend the "right" of the powerful to take what they can from the innocent.  

I am well aware of reservations. We have several around here and I have done business with them often over the yearsZ. So yes my perception on reservations are certainly limited to my experiences here in south Florida.

The powerful taking from the “innocent” has been happening the entire history of the world. If you can’t defend what you have you will lose it.

And I have made my position clear on the Palestinians. Until they choose different leaders I really do not care what happens to them. They reap what they sow and when you lay with dogs you get fleas. If they choose more reasonable leadership then I will take a fresh look at the situation. Outside of that I am pretty set.

Arabs live in Israel already. They are overwhelmingly Palestinian. So I know they can live and thrive within an Israel state.





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Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-26-2018, 07:18 AM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-26-2018, 01:29 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - fredtoast - 01-26-2018, 02:53 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - fredtoast - 01-26-2018, 04:38 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-26-2018, 05:13 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-26-2018, 05:57 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - fredtoast - 01-26-2018, 08:26 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - fredtoast - 01-26-2018, 08:52 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-29-2018, 03:57 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-30-2018, 07:26 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - fredtoast - 01-30-2018, 07:43 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - GMDino - 01-31-2018, 10:05 AM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - GMDino - 01-31-2018, 11:12 AM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-31-2018, 03:46 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - GMDino - 01-31-2018, 04:28 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-31-2018, 04:37 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - StLucieBengal - 01-31-2018, 04:55 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 01-31-2018, 06:21 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 02-01-2018, 07:40 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - GMDino - 01-31-2018, 08:45 PM
RE: Jersusalem "off the table" - Dill - 02-01-2018, 07:13 PM

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