John Ross

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(02-26-2018, 08:01 PM)fredtoast Wrote: False.  Marvin plays rookies as much as the average NFL head coach. (numbers from before '17 season)

According to profootballreference over the last ten years there have been 227 different rookies who started at least 14 games. Since there are 32 teams that is an average of 7.1 per team. Over the last ten years the Bengals have 7 different rookies who have started at least 14 games.


When we expand it beyond just rookie seasons it does not change very much. Looking at the first three seasons of every player's career over the last 10 years there were 785 who had at least one season with at least 14 starts in his first three years. That is an average of 24.5 per team, and the Bengals have had 24.

I will add clarification to Reuben's statement (although he doesn't need me to speak for him, I feel compelled).  

The stats you refer to encompass all rookies over an incredibly long period of time where, of course, the numbers are going to average out due to injury and the fact the Bengals were not as deep in talent as some teams.  

Where seemingly everyone has a problem, except you, is when Marvin rolls out a "veteran" that absolutely sucks rhinoceros balls (I would imagine they are large, so you would really have to suck) over a rookie that, ultimately, when given a chance, makes Marvin look like an idiot.  

Playing Adam Jones early over WJIII.  Playing MJ over Lawson.  Playing Bodine over giving Westerman a shot at Center (or at least having some kind of plan to push the guy....we don't give WRs automatic playing time, but the worst center in the league?  No problem).  Playing Hopkins over Redmond.  

I honestly believe Burfict would have toiled in obscurity on the bench had Thomas Howard (I think it was him) not been injured. 

Our WR corps last year sucked almost as much as the offensive line.  Yet, here comes Lafell, game after game....Captain Average that doesn't make a play despite single coverage never guarded by the other team's #1 CB.  Ross, Core, Malone all sit and watch....

I think that is the overall point that is being made.  It isn't an absolute that Marv doesn't play rookies.  It drives us crazy when he plays turds over rookies that need a shot.