03-06-2018, 03:06 PM
(03-05-2018, 09:51 PM)McC Wrote: It kinda depends. 12 is a high price to pay for a NT in today's game, but if he's the best NT in the game, maybe that's different. I don't know if he would be the best or not. I have heard multiple people say things like best in the game.
If a guy gives you a dominant force at any position, how much is that worth? If no one can run on us, how much is that worth?
And teams throw plenty on first and second down. If he can give you push up the middle on any down, it makes everyone else's jobs easier. Give me any guy opponents have to game plan around and I'm a happy camper.
We were like the worst run stopping team in the league last year. I would say if we went from the worst to the best that
is worth more than about any player we could get at 12.
(03-06-2018, 02:16 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: Except he's not just a nose tackle. He's a guy that can be a 3 down player in the nickel base that we run.
Liking this pick more and more.
(03-06-2018, 02:42 AM)Jpoore Wrote: From everything I read from austin biggest thing is stopping the run. Vea would be perfect for that. He wouldn't be ideal as a 3-tech but he could be a slightly lesser Gerald McCoy. And nt, unstoppable one on. One.
Best games to watch if u do watch film? Ucla (pro style offense) stanford(power run scheme) and Oregon(spread offense). As mentioned above he wouldn't be ideal at 3-tech, but he would be a slightly lesser version of Gerald McCoy as alass rusher. As a nt hed be perfect next to Geno bc be can't be doubled. He played all over the line at Washington's 3-4 system. Dt, both de spot, he even played the joker. And I hope he runs his pro day bc he's a sub 5 second player. But yes he is that good and my second favorite player in the draft tied with big will. When u see vea being triple teamed by the entire left side of the oline against ucla, and still chasing down the qb and being disruptive, you'll understand.
Gonna watch some film now, this is like i said, hefty praise.
(03-06-2018, 10:18 AM)ochocincos Wrote: If he's a pure NT (which I believe he is), it's still not worth such a high pick, especially when there's also some elite talent at LB, S, and CB that should be available there.
I'd take the following players before Vea:
Bradley Chubb
Quenton Nelson
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Roquan Smith
Tremaine Edmunds
Derwin James
Mike McGlinchey (based on need)
If the Bengals, however, think Vea can be a good pass rusher in a 4-3 from the NT position and therefore keep him on the field in passing downs, I can understand the team's desire to draft him. We'll just have to wait and see what they do to get an idea of where their heads are at.
I would take Chubb and Nelson over Vea but other than that it would be hard for me. I like all the guys you listed at 12
but like i said if we can go from one of the worst run stopping teams to one of the best with one pick i think that is a great
pick.
