03-06-2018, 10:02 PM
(03-06-2018, 07:21 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Very different on tape. Josh Allen is very night and day inside and outside the pocket. He excels much more outside of it, whereas Wentz was much better inside the pocket.
Okay, here's where your wrong about the "teammates" part. He was inaccurate even to open receivers. It's clear as day. Also his receivers didn't "drop balls". In 2017, his receivers dropped 12 passes. 12. Josh Rosen and Lamar Jackson's receivers dropped more passes. He gets his mechanics all messy and misses a ton of "gimme" throws. His accuracy comes and goes.
Josh Allen's receivers had a drop rate of 7.84%. Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, and Rudolph all had higher drop rate percentages.
Also, Allen makes a lot of terrible decisions. He was a turnover machine and put the ball in position for defenders to make a play on the ball against weaker competition. He attempts high risk throws quite a bit. Granted, he has an arm that can make some of those throws, there's no denying that. But his accuracy lacks in that position a lot and will be a big issue at the next level.
Oh, and his offensive line may have been an issue, but there's also MANY plays where he has protection and he just leaves the pocket or gets off schedule early through his progressions.
Allen lacks consistency with his arm talent. He arguably has the best arm in the draft, but that means little when you're so inaccurate and mechanics break down early and often. Allen leaves the pocket earlier than he should at times.
There's no denying Allen has talent. But his playing style is EXTREMELY similar to that of Jake Locker. Great arms. Athletic and can make throws out of the pocket. Evaded rushers. Keeps his head down the field to throw the ball.
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Erratic passers that miss open receivers. Force throws. Leaves the pocket early. Progressions are very up and down. Heck, Jake Locker even got the "supporting cast" issue.
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We will agree to disagree. The misses are base related and can be fixed by repetition, they especially lack after he changes his launch point so focusing on resetting is big. Progressions aren’t bad it’s throw selection.He has a gunslinger mentality but he is making NFL throws in a pro system. He’ll have to learn the cost of turnovers in the NFL but Big Ben does similar things at times. If he was in Oklahoma States system with that completion percentage I’d be worried, but the throws he tried to make were tough throws in medium to deep range. The drops I reference were to the “easy” drops not the volume. His cast was bad and pressure up the middle breeds happy feet even when no pressure is coming.
I know the Locker comparison is the thing right now, but I think his mentality as far as wanting to take chances is more of his issue than lockers. I do wish his short accuracy was better but fastball throwers do tend to struggle with the touch needed for short throws. I’d honestly love to see him in an old school Bruce Arians down field attacking system. I think he has to get somewhere that he can be encouraged to take shots and make mistakes early in his career while learning from them.
Quick Edit: I was reading a comparison this morning of him to Brett Favre and that actually may be a good comp. Kind of a boom or bust gunslinger than can run and likes to take chances but will sometimes give a game away with turnovers. Favre came out of Southern Miss with a 52% completion percentage as well. Just thought it was an interesting comp I hadn't thought about.
