03-19-2018, 07:13 PM
(03-19-2018, 05:28 PM)Dill Wrote: Not a standing army.
I hadn't had my daily dose of semantics yet today, so I thank you.
(03-19-2018, 05:34 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How about a law that continues to allow law abiding citizens to own guns but just makes it harder for criminals.
Yes, please!
Quote:What would be the damage from a law like that which would justify letting criminals have easy access to guns.
If the government subsequently used this law to take away your legally purchased firearms.
(03-19-2018, 05:43 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It is not hyperbole when you claim those murders "don't count"
I didn't say they don't count. I implied that they don't represent the danger of being killed with a firearm for the general populace. This isn't a difficult concept, Fred.
Quote:BTW where did you get that number?
I could have sworn I got it from the BJS, but for the life of me I can't find it. After thinking about it, it may have been from a training, because I can vividly recall myself and some work colleagues talking about the fact that ~60-66% of gun related homicides involve criminals killing other criminals. If you choose to discount this number, please feel free as I cannot currently substantiate it. Even so, I think it's very fair, and difficult to dispute, to say that a sizable number of gun related homicides involve criminals killing other criminals.
(03-19-2018, 05:46 PM)fredtoast Wrote: As long as private sales are allowed without background check and there is no gun registry it is impossible to enforce these laws in many cases.
I see them get enforced all the time. As the violent crime rate was dropping for a quarter century until recently I'd say the laws were working.