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UK poisoning
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(04-05-2018, 12:13 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So it’s just anti Russian paranoia, instead of legitimate concern for historical bad actors

The current German government is a different thing that the government before the end of the Cold War, which was different than the Third Reich, which was different than the Weimar Republic, which was different than...

I could go on. The point is that the current German government is not the institution that was responsible for past atrocities. It's not just like in our case where the individuals are not the same even though the institution still is. They actually have a different government, constitution, and legal framework. The same can be said of Russia and the USSR. Should we look at Russia with a side-eye because of the atrocities committed by Stalin?

Putin has shown to be a bad actor, that is why I suspect him before others. It isn't paranoia when there is justification to believe that Russia had a hand in things because of a past history of Putin, the leader himself. There is no evidence of justification for believing the Germans would have acted in this way, whether we are talking about the current German institution or the individuals themselves.

There is paranoia existent in this thread, but it isn't with the ones that believe Russia to be at fault.
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UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-02-2018, 06:07 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Arturo Bandini - 04-02-2018, 06:40 PM
RE: UK poisoning - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2018, 06:48 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-02-2018, 07:31 PM
RE: UK poisoning - BmorePat87 - 04-03-2018, 09:34 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-03-2018, 02:32 PM
RE: UK poisoning - BmorePat87 - 04-03-2018, 05:32 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-03-2018, 09:00 PM
RE: UK poisoning - BmorePat87 - 04-04-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-04-2018, 12:54 PM
RE: UK poisoning - BmorePat87 - 04-04-2018, 02:26 PM
RE: UK poisoning - THE Bigzoman - 04-04-2018, 10:57 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-05-2018, 01:10 AM
RE: UK poisoning - bfine32 - 04-02-2018, 07:13 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-02-2018, 07:29 PM
RE: UK poisoning - hollodero - 04-02-2018, 07:45 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-02-2018, 07:46 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-02-2018, 08:16 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-03-2018, 01:48 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-05-2018, 01:46 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-05-2018, 02:04 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-05-2018, 02:20 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-05-2018, 11:49 AM
RE: UK poisoning - GMDino - 04-05-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: UK poisoning - hollodero - 04-05-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-05-2018, 12:30 PM
RE: UK poisoning - GMDino - 04-05-2018, 12:40 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-06-2018, 02:26 AM
RE: UK poisoning - michaelsean - 04-09-2018, 10:10 AM
RE: UK poisoning - hollodero - 04-09-2018, 07:30 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-10-2018, 02:39 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-10-2018, 07:43 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-06-2018, 12:34 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-06-2018, 02:11 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-06-2018, 02:34 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-06-2018, 10:35 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-06-2018, 06:05 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-06-2018, 11:53 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-07-2018, 12:37 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-07-2018, 04:02 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Bengalzona - 04-07-2018, 06:10 AM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-09-2018, 03:09 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Dill - 04-10-2018, 07:54 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-11-2018, 01:40 AM
RE: UK poisoning - GMDino - 04-03-2018, 09:30 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-03-2018, 09:41 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Arturo Bandini - 04-03-2018, 09:55 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Arturo Bandini - 04-03-2018, 07:06 PM
RE: UK poisoning - hollodero - 04-03-2018, 08:42 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-03-2018, 09:02 PM
RE: UK poisoning - GMDino - 04-03-2018, 10:40 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Arturo Bandini - 04-04-2018, 02:59 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-04-2018, 02:52 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-04-2018, 06:52 PM
RE: UK poisoning - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 04-04-2018, 03:25 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-04-2018, 07:00 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-04-2018, 07:18 PM
RE: UK poisoning - GMDino - 04-04-2018, 10:26 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-04-2018, 10:51 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-05-2018, 12:10 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-05-2018, 12:13 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-05-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-05-2018, 12:29 PM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-06-2018, 01:47 PM
RE: UK poisoning - StLucieBengal - 04-06-2018, 11:32 PM
RE: UK poisoning - JustWinBaby - 04-07-2018, 04:42 AM
RE: UK poisoning - Belsnickel - 04-09-2018, 10:45 AM

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