First woman President

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(04-19-2018, 12:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: No doubt.

Filed under two wrongs don't make a right in my book.

I voted for Clinton because she was a better person and candidate than the other choice I had (no, 3rd party was not a choice I had).

But certainly many Democrats voted for Clinton just because she was a Democrat too.  And I'm sure there those who voted to have the first female POTUS too.

The Obama example I have wrestled with for one reason:  While he CLEARLY got the lion's share of the minority vote it wasn't his "fault" that he was black.  Which is hard to explain while typing...lol.  I think his rising to the nomination encouraged a lot of minorities who thought they would never see a black man in that position and that inspired them to vote for him more than any policy that they could name.  And, McCain while not a horrible candidate had his own problems...including his choice of VP.  So while minorities may have voted for Obama JUST because he was black it wasn't only because of his skin color but because of his story and his being there and his serving as something to aspire to that they had not seen in their lifetime.  Again, hard to fully explain my inner discussion on this.

(Full disclosure:  I voted for McCain in 2008.  I wanted him to POTUS in 2000 and I gave him that vote in 2008 despite Palin being on the ticket.)

I think in the end we got the better President with Obama...but we don't know what McCain would have/could have done either.

Women made up the same share of voters in 2012 and 2016, but only 54% of women voted for Clinton where 55% voted for Obama. 

The share of black voters in 2012 was 13% versus 12% in 2016. Black voters went 92% to Obama and 89% to Hillary. In 2008 they made up the same share (13%) and voted 95% in favor of Obama. 

You can make the argument that some people voted for Obama based on race at first, but you can't make the same about Hillary and gender.