05-04-2018, 10:37 PM
(05-04-2018, 06:25 PM)Dill Wrote: Vague gesture rejected. Pick out a line which I "plausibly deny" your right wing status.
"Plausibly deny" where? Answer: nowhere. Just victim smoke.
If you're flat out just saying it, then cool. Congrats on finally having the courage to be direct. Again, no victim here, your endless repeating of the term won't change that fact.
(05-04-2018, 06:36 PM)Dill Wrote: I don't think anyone disputes you used to be sort of liberal. None of that redeems your position on "cultural suicide" and Islam, though.
Only have time for one example right now. Recall these gems from Merkel's foes in disarray" --
Post # 5 in "Merkel's Foes in Disarry," almost exactly a year ago:
A sampling of right publications lamenting cultural suicide.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/23/europe-threatens-cultural-suicide/
https://www.weeklystandard.com/jean-kaufman/why-does-western-europe-seem-so-determined-to-commit-cultural-suicide
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/06/the_most_absurd_needless_cultural_suicide_in_history.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/06/the_most_absurd_needless_cultural_suicide_in_history.html
Trump makes a nice connection between the American and European right on this issue.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/07/07/why-trumps-western-civilization-isnt-a-white-supremacist-dogwhistle/
People who "defend Western Civilization" are turning liberal premises/politics based upon natural rights/universal rights for something else.
Odd that you left out my response to Hollodero when he pointed out that "cultural suicide" is a politically loaded term and my retraction of the term. I absolutely stand by my central point though, that Germany's guilt about their past makes them unwilling to defend what is clearly their unique culture. Taking in millions of refugees from a very foreign culture will unalterably change the culture of any country. Not sure why this confuses you.
Quote:Post #19
This quote is actually captured from my post #182. Can't seem to find the original.
An absolutely correct point. Fearing islam and what it brings is not irrational, especially if you're a woman. A vast majority of muslim majority nations are very repressive to women, homosexuals and basically anyone who isn't the right type of muslim. Care to dispute this? Fine, but it'll be quite the uphill climb.
Quote:So, to spell this out. It is the right--the far right especially--which worries about 1) "cultural suicide," 2) a supposed "leftist" alliance with Islam (see for example, Dinesh D'Souza's The Enemy at Home" The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11 (2006)), and a religion which is not really a religion but an "ideology" defined by segments which most violate Western norms (https://sites.google.com/site/islamicthreatsimplified/a-religion-or-political-ideology).
Ahh, a tried and true tactic of people like yourself, point out an odious person who agrees with some of your positions. I find D'Souza to be a cretin, I love the debate in which Hitchens (a brilliant man who you also probably consider a "right winger") tore him apart. If you agree with the need for high speed motorways does that make you and Hitler ideological equals? Straight out of the radicals handbook Dill, well done.
Quote:B-b-but Bill Maher. . . ?) And it is the right which sees "leftism" everywhere. Can we find any posts of yours which vilifying "the left"? What "centrist" does that?
Sure you can, since they collectively lost their mind with the rise of Trump. They, generally speaking, seem to have lost their minds and gotten just as ugly as the "tea party" types they used to revile. Doesn't change my political stances though.
Quote:LOL William Pierce, author of he Turner Diaries, was also a "staunch secularlist." Why should that separate you from the right?
Yes, you're right, secularism is commonly associated with the 'right wing". Boy is my face red. I do enjoy that you chose this one point from my left leaning views to try and pick at the corner hoping for a loose thread.
Quote:Got to run to dinner. When I get back maybe we can talk gun control?
Sure. Just to summarize, my "right wing" views, per you, are an intolerance of the extreme practices of much of islam and my opposition to unconstitutional gun laws. Outstanding, you've got a grand total of two and neglected to even try and refute my more numerous left wing leanings.
Like I said earlier, your type requires ideological purity. You must be in lock step with every single view of "the left" or you are a right winger. you must be perpetually outraged by the idea of a Trump presidency or you are a right winger. I honestly feel bad for you, your rigid worldview must be a very unhappy place.
