06-06-2018, 07:31 PM
(06-06-2018, 12:43 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Like I said, I do not oppose women, I just do not support them playing football. It's my belief that women playing sports is wrong, not because women are women. I just believe it because my faith tells me that women engaging in something that does not involve me, does not hurt anyone, and involves only those who choose to participate is immoral and a sin. It's just as bad as killing someone because a sin is a sin.
I still support women cooking and cleaning or even voting, I just won't sell any sports equipment to women because I do not support women playing sports. I won't sell them a baseball mitt but I'll still sell them an oven mitt.
See at the root of all of it, I am discriminating against women for being women, not just them playing sports. It's the fact that they as women are playing the sport.
To better explain what I'm getting at here I'll start this from scratch.
A gay man walks into a bakery and asks the baker to bake him a cake for his gay wedding. The baker then refuses to bake the cake for the gay man. The gay man then asks the baker why he doesn't want to bake a cake for his gay wedding. The baker then tells him that he doesn't want to bake him a cake for his gay wedding because "He believes that it's wrong".
The gay man then asks why it's wrong to have a gay wedding. The baker then says "Because I believe gay marriage isn't recognized by God". Being overcome with shock, the gay man then responds "So you're refusing to bake me a cake because I'm gay? ". The baker responds, "No, it's not because you're gay, it's because I don't believe gay marriage is something God agrees with, therefore I don't agree with it and as a result will not bake you a cake to celebrate something I don't agree with". The gay man then says, "No, you are refusing to bake me a cake because I'm gay." The baker then says, "No I'm not. If you asked me to bake a cake for your birthday, I would, because I don't see anything wrong with a gay man celebrating his birthday".
The gay man then says, "But if a straight person was having a straight wedding you would bake them a cake". The baker responds, "Yeah, I would bake them a cake, but not because they're straight. I would bake them a cake because I see nothing wrong with straight people getting married". The gay man then responds "So why is there nothing wrong with straight people getting married?". The baker then responds, "Because I don't believe God sees anything wrong with it therefore I don't see anything wrong with it and therefore will bake them a cake".
The baker then says, "Now if a straight person asked me to bake a cake for their gay friends wedding I wouldn't. Not because their friend is gay, but because I don't believe gay people should get married. Not because gay people are gay, but because I believe God says it's wrong for gay people to get married."
The gay guy then says, "Okay I get it, you think it's wrong because God thinks it's wrong. But why can't you bake me a cake because you think that God thinks it is wrong for gay people to get married?" I'm not doing anything to you by rebelling against whatever your supposed God thinks."
The baker then responds, "You're right, you're not doing anything to me. But by baking a cake for you I feel that I would be celebrating rebellion against God, and therefore would be tied to the rebellion myself".
The point is, in this scenario the fact that gay people are gay is not the reason the baker refuses to bake cakes for gay weddings. He refuses to bake cakes for gay weddings because he sees it as an act against God. And he sees it as an act against God because he believes God doesn't agree with it, not because gay people are gay.
