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The Summer of Summits
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(06-12-2018, 12:21 AM)Dill Wrote: Pretty sure there is not going to be any "denuclearization" under Kim's terms, unless the US agrees to get rid of its nukes and submits to international inspections too.

And China will ultimately have as much say in what happens on the Korean peninsula as the Koreans do. Russia will have some say as well.  But neither is included at the moment. Japan will WANT a say, and would have it for sure under any other president. Dennis Rodman may play a role as well.

From Kim's side, the NK leader has achieved the impossible: the first NK dictator to get a US president to agree to a meeting (on one try, no concessions!)--and on a world stage.  And before any discussion of the details which prevented other US presidents from meeting. The Korean people's sacrifices for the nuclear program have won this victory.  And if a peace treaty can be signed, then what is the rationale for the continued US military presence in SK? Or the naval exercises and bomber flyovers? Another Korean People's victory. This achieved, the turn not is to economic development. Putin and Abe want to meet with Kim now too. Already had a sit down with Singapore's Loong. Concentration camps be damned. NK's pariah status has been transmuted to celebrity as international corporations smell investment potential, even as US relations with its allies is fracturing.  Give the Pueblo back. Conduct a joint military exercise with SK. Vow never to kidnap Japanese children. Destroy 5,000 old centrifuges. Pull back 5,000 heavy guns from the border. Set a schedule for disarmament "talks," beginning maybe in August, and a summit with SK about family re-unification and/or economic coordination. Trump needs a foreign policy success very badly. Keep coasting with talk of "peace" and "concessions" and in a year it will be very difficult to maintain sanctions.

From Trump's side a A LOT has already been accomplished; no president has ever met with a North Korean leader so this is a HISTORIC FIRST. Obama never did that. Trump could get a PEACE TREATY right away which, again, no other president has accomplished in 70 years. Previous presidents let things go too far; now Trump is "handling" the problem. His sanctions brought Kim to the table, plus the military option. Hillary would not have done that. He got two hostages back. Kim knows Trump means business from the tough talk given US allies. "The eyes of the world are watching."  (Lol, just heard that on Fox.)  This will create jobs in the US. Ready to walk away if the deal is "not good."

The bump in the road may be Trump's claim that NK cannot reach the capability to strike the US, and that full, inspected de-nuclearization of NK is the US ultimate goal here. "In perpetuity and verifiable" as IL Rep. Allan Kinzinger says. Fox commentator General Keane assures Foxdom that the Trump team knows to sign no peace treaty UNTIL denuclearization.
Is this a long aside to explain how Trump "doesn't know how it works"? Or are we conceding naybe he does?
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The Summer of Summits - bfine32 - 06-11-2018, 12:42 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - Belsnickel - 06-11-2018, 01:10 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - Dill - 06-12-2018, 12:21 AM
RE: The Summer of Summits - bfine32 - 06-12-2018, 12:27 AM
RE: The Summer of Summits - NATI BENGALS - 06-12-2018, 08:17 AM
RE: The Summer of Summits - Dill - 06-12-2018, 01:51 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - jj22 - 06-11-2018, 01:21 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - Dill - 06-11-2018, 11:06 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - hollodero - 06-11-2018, 02:24 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - fredtoast - 06-11-2018, 02:33 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - NATI BENGALS - 06-11-2018, 08:47 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - bfine32 - 06-11-2018, 10:39 PM
RE: The Summer of Summits - Belsnickel - 06-12-2018, 08:53 AM
RE: The Summer of Summits - NATI BENGALS - 06-12-2018, 11:46 AM

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