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(06-26-2018, 04:56 PM)PhilHos Wrote: You realize you've not left me any way to respond, right? You've said nothing outrageous nor have you really made an argument of any kind I can agree or disagree with. You suck, Matt.

I do what I can.

(06-26-2018, 05:11 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: I'm for the RCV, been following it TWICE in Maine, and once in SD.  If the two parties are against it, you can bet it's probably a good thing. Politics in major metro areas are much different than they are in middle America.  There is a more dense populace in said metro areas, so if you move away from the EC, or something like it, you represent an urban population while abandoning a rural one.  At least that's how I see it.

But if that is what wins the majority of votes, why is that a problem? There will always be people not represented by the executive in a national election. Hell, that happens in other elections. I live in a blue city in a sea of red and we never have a federal or state representative in Congress that represents our interests.

The EC was created because those making the decisions didn't trust the rabble to make an informed decision about someone they would likely know nothing about (which isn't a problem these days, or rather shouldn't be) and was pushed for in a significant way by the slave states because it afforded them more power (representation counted slaves, even though they couldn't vote, which gave them a boost). The debate around the Twelfth Amendment was all about making the executive more accountable to the people, which at the time the way they came up with was the most feasible way as national elections weren't possible. It's a different story, today.

(06-26-2018, 05:11 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: I don't think it's separate, but equal.  That said, it seems we're cool with offending and disenfranchising one sect of the people for the wants of another.  Marriage is, in fact, a civil union in the eyes of the law......just call it that, and leave the term "marriage" to the Judeo Christian beliefs that implemented it and their ceremonies.  Coming from a moderate centrist......you look for ways to appease the majority of folks, I think that works.  There will be some on the extremes of either view that still wouldn't be happy, but to them I would say "tough shit".  Probably why I would never make it in politics....lol.  Take the emotion out, and look for compromise and common sense.

I'd be more in line with you if marriage was really a religious term.