SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban

[Belsnickel]

(06-27-2018, 08:20 PM)Beaker Wrote: 1. I don't believe racism to be systemic. I think there are racist individuals, and some of those individuals have made it into higher positions in some cases, but I don't believe it to be systemic in all institutions.

These racist policies and effects have outlasted any individual. They are fully integrated into the institutions.

(06-27-2018, 08:20 PM)Beaker Wrote: 2. I would need specific examples of this to address it.

I'll just let you look through some of this: https://www.civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/research/k-12-education/integration-and-diversity

But this is a report specifically address segregation and discusses the resegregation in certain places: https://www.civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/research/k-12-education/integration-and-diversity/brown-at-62-school-segregation-by-race-poverty-and-state/Brown-at-62-final-corrected-2.pdf

(06-27-2018, 08:20 PM)Beaker Wrote: 3. Black defendants are incarcerated at higher rates, but also tend to commit crimes at higher rates. As for harsher sentences for the exact same crime...no two crimes are exactly the same. A one murder is not the same as another. Show me examples where a black defendant got a harsher sentence than his white partner for the EXACT same crime. And you would need multiple examples in order to support your premise that it is systemic.

Even partners in a crime would not necessarily be charged with the same crimes, no matter racial differences. The data you are asking for is improbably difficult to obtain and would have a very low n, making it difficult to draw any sort of conclusions from it.

What we do know is that white defendants are offered better deals, more often. They are acquitted at higher rates. Crimes which are seen as being committed more often by black people are treated with stiffer penalties than those seen as committed by white people (see crack v. cocaine). There is a lot of evidence out there backing this all up. Peer reviewed journals providing this information in spades. Were I not feeling lazy I'd go get a book that has some of these sources in it, log into the VPN and pull up some reports for you.

But, I have a feeling that no number of these reports would convince you, so I'm not going to bother. You've made up your mind on this issue and no amount of statistical evidence will likely persuade you.