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SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban
(06-28-2018, 09:46 AM)Beaker Wrote: It doesnt follow that 55% of the population should hold 55% of the wealth....or that 10% of the population should hold 10% of the wealth. There are individuals in all categories that will hold more or less. There should be equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. If everyone was only allowed to hold a predetermined amount, then where is the motivation for innovation if I am only allowed to retain a given amount?

The argument over equality of opportunity is fallacious, because there is no equality of opportunity in our current systems. When socioeconomic inequality is too extreme then the opportunity is not there for those at the lower end because those in power are preventing it from happening to protect their wealth. I'm not saying that equality of outcome is the goal, but considering our Gini coefficient indicates more inequality now than in 1774 (including slaves), then we should be looking to address the problem.

Of course, if equality of opportunity were true, then you should see equal distribution of the races in each socioeconomic tier. We do not. Which is really the point that was being made and is evidence of the falsehood of the equality of opportunity myth.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR





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SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-26-2018, 11:23 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-26-2018, 02:28 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-26-2018, 07:23 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-26-2018, 11:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 08:38 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 02:44 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 02:47 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 03:03 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:17 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 03:21 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 03:25 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:39 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 08:06 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Nately120 - 06-26-2018, 11:47 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-26-2018, 12:11 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Millhouse - 06-26-2018, 12:13 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-26-2018, 01:13 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-27-2018, 01:27 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-27-2018, 11:49 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-28-2018, 11:09 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-29-2018, 05:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-29-2018, 06:08 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-26-2018, 01:27 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-26-2018, 01:46 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Millhouse - 06-26-2018, 02:02 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-26-2018, 02:36 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-26-2018, 01:37 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-26-2018, 01:42 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-26-2018, 02:43 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-26-2018, 02:44 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-26-2018, 03:20 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-26-2018, 03:52 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-26-2018, 11:17 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-26-2018, 11:44 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 12:16 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-27-2018, 12:19 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 12:31 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-27-2018, 09:15 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-26-2018, 03:31 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-26-2018, 04:23 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-26-2018, 09:58 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-26-2018, 11:41 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-27-2018, 09:17 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-27-2018, 09:46 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-27-2018, 10:24 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-27-2018, 10:27 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-26-2018, 06:41 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 08:34 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 10:11 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 02:33 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 02:43 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 02:46 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:10 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 03:18 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 03:24 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:39 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 03:45 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 05:43 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 05:53 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 02:13 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 08:11 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 09:28 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:36 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 01:53 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 01:55 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 02:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:12 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 04:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 12:09 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 10:20 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-27-2018, 10:25 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 10:33 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 10:54 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 11:12 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 12:00 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-28-2018, 09:22 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-28-2018, 09:40 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-28-2018, 10:02 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-28-2018, 10:51 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-28-2018, 10:48 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 10:48 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-27-2018, 10:59 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-27-2018, 11:10 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - jj22 - 06-27-2018, 11:04 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 02:27 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 12:30 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 02:37 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 08:10 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 08:20 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-27-2018, 12:45 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:20 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-27-2018, 03:29 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Millhouse - 06-27-2018, 03:43 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-27-2018, 03:43 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-27-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-27-2018, 09:01 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-28-2018, 12:10 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:22 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-28-2018, 03:45 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:17 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:39 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:46 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 01:57 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:11 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:14 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:23 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:25 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:27 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:35 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:39 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:45 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:55 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Belsnickel - 06-28-2018, 09:53 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 10:01 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 02:06 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:07 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:15 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:25 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:31 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:35 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 10:04 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 10:10 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 10:15 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 03:14 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Dill - 06-28-2018, 04:43 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-28-2018, 10:43 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - GMDino - 06-28-2018, 11:34 AM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:16 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 04:23 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:26 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:29 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:31 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:34 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:37 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:47 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 04:53 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 04:55 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 05:11 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 05:13 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 05:20 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 05:27 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-28-2018, 05:33 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:36 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-29-2018, 12:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-29-2018, 02:57 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - fredtoast - 06-29-2018, 03:22 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 04:49 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-28-2018, 05:28 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 05:30 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 05:30 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-28-2018, 05:31 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 05:33 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - bfine32 - 06-28-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - PhilHos - 06-28-2018, 05:38 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-28-2018, 09:39 PM
RE: SCOTUS rules on Travel Ban - Beaker - 06-29-2018, 06:33 PM

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