Despite the detractors, Trump doing well

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(07-04-2018, 08:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I consider being objective as not being influenced by personal feelings (bias); so that's where I "went there."

I think that's a necessity for being objective, but it's not the only criteria. Not only do I need to be unbiased, I also need to know about the facts to be objective, at least that's how I use that word.
So, besides the fact that my refusal of TPP is far from being without feelings, it is certainly not based solely on facts and evidence. I think things I wouldn't like could happen with TPP, I could argue the case and make maybe some sense doing so, but I'd not dare saying that being against TPP is objectively the right call. I'm in no place to claim that kind of certainty. And that really has nothing to do with Trump.

(07-04-2018, 08:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: In your definition would objective be changing the name of Mt McKinley? Outside of that I have no idea what you are looking for. Because it seems that you can point to all the good things but they don't count as "objective." 

Neither do many of the bad things. That's kind of the point. It's a difference in definition.
E.g. I still think the tax cuts are amazingly awful, but I'd equally not dare saying that this is objectively true. I think fearing the exploding deficit is a valid point, or seeing the benefits go to the richest five percent or stuff like that, but that's the kind of things I got. Far too little to give an "objective" opinion. I sure still have one, as do most of us. Reached by a mixture of facts, articles, words from other people, own thoughts, own fears and feelings and prejudices and a whole bunch of stuff.

With Mt. McKinley, an objective statement would be "US citizens call this mountain Mt McKinley". Also where it's located, height, rocks etc. etc. If I had polling, I could say pretty much objectively whether Americans like the name or not. If asked if it should be renamed Mt. Trump, I'd have a strongly worded answer, but not an objective one.