There is no proof that Jesus existed

[*PhilHos*]

(07-13-2018, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: Agreed.  If one can follow the sources and verify them it works as a good repository for information and links.

(07-13-2018, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: Except, unlike your example, he had no way of verifying the Gospels.  We can't even verify the original work of Tacitus (although it is general accepted as genuine).  And, from what I read, he was a small boy during the time frame he was writing about.  He probably had heard stories and knew of the gospels and put two and two together?  

The point being that you can't just say it's not a good source because it aligns with other sources.

(07-13-2018, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: The translation I read said this after saying he was put to death by Pilate: "...and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment,..."  I wonder if he means he DOESN'T believe there was a resurrection, or simple has no proof of it?

Yeah, I think it means he doesn't believe the resurrection. From what I remember, Tacitus was not a Christian, Christian sympathizer, Christian apologist or what have you. I think he was just recording what happened.

(07-13-2018, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: There is as much "proof" for that as "proof" that Jesus was real or the son of god.

But there are theories.

http://www.monitor.co.ug/artsculture/Religion/689744-1051562-yiwuw8/index.html
https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520234000/the-messiah-before-jesus

And there's this:

https://forums.catholic.com/t/jesus-wasnt-the-only-messiah-during-his-time/195519




That poster goes to say:



As if is a definitive fact.

As I said to someone else, I'm laying a trap for DA. I bet you can figure out what it is.

(07-13-2018, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well we know Pilate existed.  Or someone by that name did at the right time.  But the passage you cite give us no other information about how "Chrisus" died or why.  Just that he inspired followers.

How many other people who would have been called "Christus" were put to death by Pilate and raised a group of people who would eventually call themselves Christians?