Helsinki--the Tipping Point?

[GMDino]

(07-18-2018, 11:52 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Well to be honest I didn't expect an open-minded response, but Jim Webb's political views as well as his decorated Military service held a lot of weight with me. As to "not liking Clinton", you do realize Jim Webb stated he would not vote for Clinton, aligned himself closer to Trump, and was a huge critic of Obama's foreign policy. 

BTW, care to share who you voted for so I can call you a liar? 

Well I wasn't talking about who Jim Webb voted for.  Is he out there defending Trump too?

In order I voted for:

Dukakis (if I remember correctly) I know at the time I thought eight years of Reaganomics were more than enough...my family suffered greatly due to his pro big business/anti-union ways...but I might have changed my mind at the last second because I wasn't 100% sure of what Dukakis planned on really doing and I remember liking Bush Sr.

Clinton.  I'd had enough of Reaganomics.  Clinton was young and energetic.  I was 22, fresh out of college and ready for a younger generation to lead the country.

Perot.  Clinton should have resigned over the Lewinsky affair.  Dole seemed to get nominated because it was "his turn".  Perot was an outsider and I got caught up in the buzz with him.  I think he would have been a more sane Trump...maybe.  Not sure I would vote for him today.

GW Bush.  Eight years of democrat control was enough.  Despite his lack of experience  thought Bush would surround himself with people to help him learn the job.  I didn't realize they would also use this time to push through foreign policy they couldn't get past the stronger, smarter Bush Sr.

Kerry.  The Iraq "war" was a step too far.  

McCain.  He should have been the candidate in 2000.  He was the candidate I supported in 2000.  And I held my nose with Palin as his VP and a heartbeat from the oval office because I respected him.

Obama.  He turned the economy around and was a good man.  Given the overt obstructionism he received from 2014 on he deserved to keep working.

Clinton.  PA is a state she should have won.  Trump was an ahole long before he ran for president or even started tweeting about politics.  He's a snake oil salesman.  A con artist.  Someone who was born on third and thought he hit a triple and makes his "living" off people thinking he's successful and getting out of his way.  The Vince McMahon of real estate, if you will.  His giant ego doesn't allow for learning or self-inspection.  He is an awful human being to the people he is intimately involved with let alone people he works with or work for him.  He's a world class, pathological liar.  People can make all kinds of excuses for why they "couldn't" vote for Clinton...but in the end they voted for a horrible human being instead who also had no experience and no history that says he would even TRY to learn what he needs to do at his new job.  He thinks he was elected CEO and everyone works for him and all that matters is making money.  And most of us will suffer because of it.

Now tell me how my vote put an awful person who can't do his job and lies every day in office.  

And I didn't say anyone lied about who they voted for. I said they say they didn't vote for him but that theyidentify more closely with him and defend hm constantly.