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What will last of Trump?
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(07-18-2018, 12:01 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: What do you expect after Trump's presidency is over? Do you think he is doing some serious damage that will last for years to come? Or do you think the next person in line will just step in and go "Alright everybody lets get back to good old text book politics and just completely denounce Trump right off the bat" and everything will be fine? 

In other words..... does the Trump presidency really matter? Is it really easy to just write off as an unfortunate event and the US will get a slap on the wrist for everything he's done that's seen as ridiculous and all will be forgotten?

You asked a good question. At the moment I see a legacy of bad policy, the effects of which will continue after Trump.

Neb mentioned the Supreme Court, which may be stacked right for a generation. Huge implications for abortions, unions, and healthcare. Bad news for most Trump supporters--trash healthcare but greater limits on abortion.  Good news for corporations.

Hollo pointed out the fractures to our European alliances. They wont come back automatically. And Trump is not finished alienating them. Just to emphasize a point Hollo made--the forces that put  Trump in office will still be there when he is gone electing the "freedom caucus" and Trey Gowdy's replacement to Congress, and generally making government unworkable and giving Trump act-alikes power there to block and disrupt. People trust this trouble to pass. But there is no good reason to suppose it will. Too many voters zig exactly when and where they should zag if they want to MAGA. They don't seem to learn from their errors, as post ww2 generations did for so long.

I want to mention another area where wreckage is accumulating--Asia--starting with the trashed Iran Deal. I don't see how we can get that back. Right now Europe, China, and Russia, along with Iran, are holding to the Iran deal. The deal was an amazing accomplishment, getting so many adversarial countries to agree, and Iran subjecting itself to highly invasive searches.  But without the US it is doubtful it can hold. That bodes ill for ME stability. But there is not even a 2% chance a new president could salvage this. Also, who want to enter a long term deal with the US now?

In the Far East, China and NK have been empowered. Kim is literally out of the box. Allies SK and Japan cannot count on us. The TPP is going apace without us, without our ability to influence FE trade in our favor.

Toss in the Paris Accords, and Trump's legacy so far is deal busting, shattering years work of multilateral diplomacy.  Behind he leaves no accomplishment like the GI Bill or the Great Society or the China opening.  Trump has broken almost every thing the fringe right wanted broken back in the 80s. R v Wade will be the capstone.

People don't like long posts so I will skip the tax cut for the rich--his one major legislative accomplishment--and its effect on the deficit and our future.
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What will last of Trump? - Matt_Crimson - 07-18-2018, 12:01 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - hollodero - 07-18-2018, 12:32 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 10:55 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - hollodero - 07-18-2018, 11:48 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-18-2018, 06:17 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Nately120 - 07-18-2018, 06:55 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 03:59 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Millhouse - 07-18-2018, 12:39 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - GMDino - 07-18-2018, 08:49 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 09:50 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - bfine32 - 07-18-2018, 10:42 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - hollodero - 07-18-2018, 10:57 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - GMDino - 07-18-2018, 11:05 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - hollodero - 07-18-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - bfine32 - 07-18-2018, 11:04 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - hollodero - 07-18-2018, 11:12 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Nately120 - 07-18-2018, 12:32 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - bfine32 - 07-18-2018, 12:36 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Nately120 - 07-18-2018, 01:10 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - bfine32 - 07-18-2018, 01:20 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Nately120 - 07-18-2018, 04:40 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Benton - 07-18-2018, 12:40 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - GMDino - 07-18-2018, 04:34 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 04:43 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - GMDino - 07-18-2018, 04:48 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 05:51 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - GMDino - 07-19-2018, 08:20 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-19-2018, 08:55 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-18-2018, 06:05 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 08:51 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 03:38 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-19-2018, 07:32 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 11:15 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-19-2018, 11:22 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 12:47 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-19-2018, 01:29 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 01:55 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-19-2018, 02:20 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 04:48 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - GMDino - 07-18-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-18-2018, 06:02 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - michaelsean - 07-18-2018, 09:14 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Bengalzona - 07-18-2018, 10:06 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Nately120 - 07-18-2018, 11:34 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 03:45 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Benton - 07-19-2018, 12:33 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - bfine32 - 07-19-2018, 12:35 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Nately120 - 07-19-2018, 12:56 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - hollodero - 07-19-2018, 03:10 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 03:43 AM
RE: What will last of Trump? - bfine32 - 07-19-2018, 02:03 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Dill - 07-19-2018, 04:32 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Bengalzona - 07-19-2018, 12:20 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - GMDino - 07-19-2018, 02:12 PM
RE: What will last of Trump? - Griever - 07-19-2018, 04:12 PM

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