What will last of Trump?

[Dill]

(07-19-2018, 02:03 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Perhaps the confusion comes from the knee-jerk reaction to label him in a derogatory as soon as he completes each act instead of looking at the overall picture. You didn't answer the question. Which is he:

Nationalist?
Traitor?
Nazi?
Bigot?

LOL no, you are trying to gaslight the wrong person. The confusion comes from a guy who contradicts his own state department almost weekly, and has a staff of people explaining today what he meant by yesterday's tweet, denying he said what he said, crying fake news when the facts are reported.   "Looking at the overall picture" shows a pattern of unforced errors on the international stage and a daily ration of vicious tweets, lies, and special access for one news organization, not a guy who makes an occasional mistake. That is who you have CHOSEN to defend in this forum, as you, along with the rest of the Trump surrogates, continue to blame the messenger.

It is you who wants to separate each act from the overall picture, in hopes some one thing will look good if we only frame out the chaos (lol the Singapore "success"?)

You ask "which" is he? Either/or. As if there is great confusion and no more than subjective valuation swirling around the media if one journalist calls Trump a "nationalist" one day and another calls him  "bigot" the next. As if that were like calling him a John Bircher one day and a Communist the next. But none of your terms is mutually exclusive, contrary or contradictory if applied to one person. E.g., one could hardly be a Nazi without being both a bigot and a nationalist.  And when nationalists put ideology before country, then they can be nazitraitornationalistbigots all at once (as many Germans now think Hitler was).

There were only two options in your original question. But to answer anyway, having rejected your either/or frame: in my view Trump, despite wanting the military parades his dictator friends enjoy, is too undisciplined to be a Nazi. He is certainly a nationalist and a bigot--and a misogynist.  It remains to be seen if he is a traitor.  In his position, his bad judgment can certainly harm the country, but that alone would not make him a traitor. Collusion with Russia--before and after the election--might. I haven't called him a traitor yet, though, have I? If someone else has let's take a look, agree on the definitional criteria and then apply them to the case.

In any case, Trump's actions in Helsinki and before do warrant a national discussion regarding his fitness to be in charge of national security. That is, increasingly, becoming a bipartisan view.

Most telling are the options you left out--incompetent, grifter, narcissistic, way out of his depth, pathological liar who lives a lie with his supporters as he does with Melania. Inside the bubble, where no one reads the fake news, this is only made up labeling and name calling motivated by some mysterious, inexplicable Trump hatred. And even if it's not made up--"We don't care"--as Trump supporters scream at his rallies. But outside the bubble, Trump's actions ground every one of these labels. They aren't the result of "knee-jerk reaction" but Trump's real actions--in his tweets, his speeches, his unforced errors recorded for all to see.  If a reporter here or a Congressman there goes hyperbole, that doesn't cancel out the record.