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Koch Report Backfires
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(07-31-2018, 05:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Appreciate the "answers". 

1) So in design I would have to pay more for the same coverage if I have a job and/or one that pays well. Not sure I'm a fan of that.

Do you mean pay more in comparison to people that don't pay as much? If so, oh well.

(07-31-2018, 05:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: 2) Yeah, that answer really isn't one

Considering I'm not in the discussions about what a national single-payer system would look like for the country, that is the best I can do.

(07-31-2018, 05:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: 3) So I have no choice of my healthcare provider. Not sure I'm a fan of it.

That is literally the opposite of what I said.

(07-31-2018, 05:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: 4) IDK, they seemed to suggest it was because of the system; they couldn't see a specialist to get the care or procedures necessary for an knee injury.

And they are wrong. This is something I have looked at for a class when we analyzed the Canadian Medicare system. The flaws are in the administration and the funding. The program would work if the resources were put into it.

(07-31-2018, 05:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Seems folks are just saying this single payer system is the way to go without fully understanding/exploring it and I have no idea how a report like that listed in the OP can have any validity with the numerous assumptions and  it appears that's one thing Bernie and I agree one.

Any time there is analysis of a potential policy it is based on assumptions. When a tax bill is passed, the numbers about how much it will raise or lower the deficit is based on numerous assumptions. It's how wonks do their thing. It's not throwing darts at a dartboard, there is actual statistical modeling involved to come up with answers that can hold up to review.

(07-31-2018, 05:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: BTW, I'm retired Military and as such am authorized care at Military Treatment Facilities at no cost. Would single payer change that? 

Depends on the system, but the likely answer is no.

(07-31-2018, 05:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I believe everyone should be entitled to healthcare. I simply believe more options should be available if you have earned them and/or pay for them. I'm against someone unemployed receiving the same health coverage as an employed individual does. It removes one of the motivations to seeks employment.   

There are a number of different potential systems out there. If it worked like our current Medicare system, which is highly likely, it would allow for some customization and improved coverage if you were willing to pay for it. Pat already pointed this out, but this is very accurate.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR





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Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 07-31-2018, 12:30 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - GMDino - 07-31-2018, 12:33 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Nebuchadnezzar - 07-31-2018, 12:49 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 07-31-2018, 12:58 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - fredtoast - 07-31-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Yojimbo - 07-31-2018, 01:25 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - michaelsean - 07-31-2018, 01:55 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - hollodero - 07-31-2018, 02:38 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 07-31-2018, 03:28 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - michaelsean - 07-31-2018, 04:38 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 07-31-2018, 04:52 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - bfine32 - 07-31-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 07-31-2018, 05:36 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - bfine32 - 07-31-2018, 05:52 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - hollodero - 07-31-2018, 05:58 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - bfine32 - 07-31-2018, 06:08 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - hollodero - 07-31-2018, 06:35 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - GMDino - 08-01-2018, 09:23 AM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - BmorePat87 - 07-31-2018, 06:31 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - bfine32 - 07-31-2018, 06:34 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - michaelsean - 07-31-2018, 06:48 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 07-31-2018, 07:08 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - bfine32 - 07-31-2018, 07:58 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Yojimbo - 07-31-2018, 08:10 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 07-31-2018, 08:18 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - bfine32 - 07-31-2018, 09:09 PM
RE: Koch Report Backfires - Belsnickel - 08-01-2018, 08:34 AM
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