Koch Report Backfires

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(07-31-2018, 07:08 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Do you mean pay more in comparison to people that don't pay as much? If so, oh well.


Considering I'm not in the discussions about what a national single-payer system would look like for the country, that is the best I can do.


That is literally the opposite of what I said.


And they are wrong. This is something I have looked at for a class when we analyzed the Canadian Medicare system. The flaws are in the administration and the funding. The program would work if the resources were put into it.


Any time there is analysis of a potential policy it is based on assumptions. When a tax bill is passed, the numbers about how much it will raise or lower the deficit is based on numerous assumptions. It's how wonks do their thing. It's not throwing darts at a dartboard, there is actual statistical modeling involved to come up with answers that can hold up to review.


Depends on the system, but the likely answer is no.


There are a number of different potential systems out there. If it worked like our current Medicare system, which is highly likely, it would allow for some customization and improved coverage if you were willing to pay for it. Pat already pointed this out, but this is very accurate.

Cannot sat I'm a fan of "oh well" as why I should pay more for others to pay less, but that's a fundamental difference in philosophies. I'm more of a reap what you sow type. 

The rest pretty much summarizes what I have asserted, Folks talk single payer, but that's not really what they are advocating. They are advocating the responsible take care of the irresponsible. I'll have to take you at your word that you know more about the pitfalls of the Canadian healthcare than those experiencing it; but you solution of throw more money at it is in keeping with the mentality.

I suppose your answer of "no one" when I asked who decides who you get to see made me point to the opposite of what you stated; as I was assuming the answer would be the individual. But that would lead the more skilled physicians to be overbooked and who gets to decide whom they see and in what order?

Folks say other countries do it; why don't we. It's because we are not them. I don't think any other nation in the history of civilization has went from nothing to the world's global power in just over 2 centuries as we have. And it's most likely because we don't model ourselves off others. 

As I understand it. No one in this country is denied emergency care and those that want additional coverage can pay for it or earn it.