09-07-2015, 01:24 AM
(09-07-2015, 12:58 AM)fredtoast Wrote: 39 catches for 592 yards is pretty impressive for a guy playing 3-4 full games at 75-90%. That projects to over 200 receptions for a full season at 100%.
But, yeah, I am sure it was just an amazing coincidence that Brady's passer rating was almost 20% higher when Gronk was playing and his yardage went up by 33%.
Well, that was also 7 games along in development for Thompkins and Dobson, along with newly starting Julius Edelman. I think anyone would agree that either previously unused or untested players, are going to improve their chemistry with their QB as the season progresses. He also got Amendola back somewhere in that stretch as well.
No doubt Gronk helped. Even if he wasn't completely healthy. Brady was dying for weapons that season. That much is evidenced by those numbers you just posted. That he relied on a banged up Gronk that he much in that short of time. The projections you were so kind to provide only illustrate that point, as Gronk has never seen game to game numbers like that since. It's because, like I said earlier, that there was lot more to the equation than him simply being short Gronk. Those numbers do more to prove that he was short weapons than they do to prove that Gronk was 100%.
Regardless, you glossed over the rest of my initial post. Even the part I specifically called for you to address. Define "looked worse", explain looked worse than when, and remind us all of why exactly you feel this discussion is at all relevant.
Any sane person would view the logic "Our QB's career best is slightly better than Tom Brady playing with a bunch of nobodies" as meaning very little in trying to figure out his worth, both in relation to his peers and in his ability to lead us to a title. In fact, I think reaching for statistics like this only shows how desperate some are and just hard a reach it is too make (that Dalton is good enough). When you're having discussions like this then your QB situation is probably more than likely leaving much to be desired.
It's like the kid everyone knew who would hope some rather meaningless accomplishment and hold it up as much greater than what it really was. "I hit a ball against Tommy Dinklelicker that went 300 feet!" - Lame kid. "Yeah, it was foul. And he stuck you out on the next pitch, like he did the other 50 times you faced him Plus, he was 5 years younger.- Kids friends.
Saying Dalton was as good as Brady playing with Thompkins, Dobson and Gronk for 7 games does little to inspire confidence for me. Call me crazy...
