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Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump
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(10-18-2018, 11:46 AM)jj22 Wrote: Ahh the "Muslim Brotherhood"....... What happened? You misplace the Hillary card?

Look, I get the mockery based on history, but he ain't wrong. This is in the media, and not just the far-right conspiracy theorist types. The NYT had a story about this side of Khashoggi. It's important that this be known because too often we like to put someone up on a pedestal when they are victims in this regard, but Khashoggi was far from a progressive reformer for the Middle East.

It is important, though, that we also don't use those connections of his to gloss over what happened. I think Haaretz puts it very well in this article talking about Khashoggi.


Quote:The entirely legitimate shock and outrage over the disappearance and likely murder of the prominent Saudi critic Jamal Khashoggi have so far largely prevented an examination of his views.

Perhaps inevitably, this has led to right-wing conspiracy theories – retweeted by Donald Trump Jr - about a nefarious media plot covering up that Khashoggi was really a veteran Al-Qaeda sympathizer who just pretended to be a "democrat reformer journalist."

So it may be necessary to point out the obvious: when a journalist is assassinated by the government he criticized, it doesn’t really matter what views he held. Opinions quite simply never justify murder.  
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR





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Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-12-2018, 09:09 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 10-12-2018, 09:32 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-12-2018, 09:49 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 10-12-2018, 09:57 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - fredtoast - 10-12-2018, 09:42 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 10-23-2018, 12:34 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 10-23-2018, 07:26 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - fredtoast - 10-23-2018, 11:25 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-23-2018, 12:54 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - fredtoast - 10-12-2018, 09:52 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-16-2018, 12:31 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - CKwi88 - 10-16-2018, 09:24 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - jj22 - 10-16-2018, 11:33 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-16-2018, 11:35 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - bfine32 - 10-16-2018, 12:59 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - fredtoast - 10-16-2018, 02:22 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - bfine32 - 10-16-2018, 02:45 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-16-2018, 07:44 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - bfine32 - 10-16-2018, 08:52 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Goalpost - 10-16-2018, 10:34 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - jj22 - 10-18-2018, 11:46 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-18-2018, 12:31 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - BmorePat87 - 10-18-2018, 01:39 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-18-2018, 06:10 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-17-2018, 12:46 PM
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RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - jj22 - 10-18-2018, 11:35 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-18-2018, 11:42 AM
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RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Belsnickel - 10-18-2018, 01:52 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-19-2018, 12:13 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Belsnickel - 10-18-2018, 02:22 PM
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RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Belsnickel - 10-22-2018, 09:59 AM
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RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-22-2018, 02:24 PM
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RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - bfine32 - 10-22-2018, 02:48 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 10-22-2018, 03:47 PM
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RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - bfine32 - 10-22-2018, 05:56 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - fredtoast - 10-22-2018, 04:05 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - bfine32 - 10-22-2018, 04:08 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 10-22-2018, 09:56 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 10-22-2018, 11:53 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 10-23-2018, 08:03 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Belsnickel - 10-23-2018, 08:48 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - fredtoast - 10-23-2018, 11:29 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Belsnickel - 10-23-2018, 01:06 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - bfine32 - 10-23-2018, 01:22 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Belsnickel - 10-23-2018, 02:17 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - BmorePat87 - 11-20-2018, 04:06 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 11-20-2018, 04:24 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 11-20-2018, 04:40 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - BmorePat87 - 11-20-2018, 04:14 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 11-20-2018, 04:16 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - jj22 - 11-21-2018, 11:39 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 11-21-2018, 10:02 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - jj22 - 11-26-2018, 11:19 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - BmorePat87 - 11-26-2018, 11:30 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 11-26-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 11-26-2018, 02:11 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - jj22 - 11-26-2018, 11:33 AM
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RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 11-28-2018, 06:39 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - GMDino - 12-10-2018, 07:33 PM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - Dill - 12-11-2018, 12:37 AM
RE: Khashoggi, Kushner, Trump - jj22 - 03-29-2019, 12:32 PM
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