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(11-12-2018, 12:40 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Smoke and mirrors. Gruden built that offense and Hue destroyed it with whiffs on draft picks. Is too gimmicky and now has horrible track record as HC. The interim Greg Williams has a third of Hues win totals in just a few weeks and may pass him this year still. 

Please do not bring Hue in here to be HC.

I'm going to preface this by saying outright that I don't want Hue coming back in any capacity, and that his inability to take responsibility for his shortcomings is a serious character flaw.

However, no one looking at the rosters the Browns trotted out the first two years Hue was HC could be delusional enough to think that the team's objective in those seasons was 'winning'. Those teams were meant to tank, and tank hard. While the Clowns still aren't particularly good this year, the talent on both sides of the ball is light-years ahead of where it was in '16 & '17 and they've been largely competitive this season. Three of the Browns losses were by a combined total of 9 points, and they've gone to OT 4 times this year. The other three losses were to the Chiefs, Steelers, and a surprisingly good Chargers team (only the most daffy of Browns fans would have expected W's in any of those games). I'm reasonably sure that's part of the reason that Hue managed to survive the 1-31 debacle, because losing was the intent. They might not of wanted 1 and 0 win seasons but their plan was certainly to be trash and stockpile a bevy of good picks to rebuild the roster.

Giving Gregg Williams credit for any success the Browns have the rest of this season is akin to saying Jon Gruden was a great coach in Tampa Bay because he won a Super Bowl with Dungy's guys and the Raiders' playbook. All the while ignoring the fact that he then systematically dismantled the team in the following seasons and showed himself to be a buffoon of a coach who only a Davis family member would be dumb enough to hire. Mayfield should be improving each week as he gets more experience, same for the rest of the young guys they have on the roster, and as a result the on-field product will continue to improve regardless of who the coach is. The firing of Hue was inevitable but let's not pretend that Mr. Bounty himself is a particularly good coach. I think the firing of Hue was done so that they could get it over with, and avoid keeping him around for another season when the Browns finish the second half of the year strong because the young guys start to gel.
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