Browns may not lay down like before

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(11-19-2018, 11:59 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Not even two losses to Cleveland — which may happen — will be enough for the Front Office to make the changes they’ve needed to make since 2007.

Assuming this is talking about Marvin. I think I was fine with Marvin until the 2010 season (I gave him a pass for having Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB in 2008). That's when I think they needed to make the change.

They didn't though, and the 2011 season was a surprise success and the 2012 season was a letdown and a case could have been easily made after it... but 2013, losing to a far inferior Chargers team, was unacceptable and that is when I again thought he should have been gone. Nothing I have seen since has made me change my mind.

It was also perfect timing as it would have allowed Zimmer to be hired as HC rather than let him go to Minnesota. In his first four years in Minnesota they are 39-25 with 2 division championships and a playoff win (with Case freaking Keenum at QB) and a shanked 27-yard gimme FG away from at least one more.