09-17-2015, 07:19 PM
(09-17-2015, 04:26 PM)Wyche Wrote: ....I can agree that part is most likely a very overzealous stiff arm....but watch the tail end of the video, and keep your eyes on those two as the ball carrier goes out of bounds.
The vine video controlling the speed and ability to go frame by frame isn't there. I'd like to have a look at that as a download to harddrive file so I can play it in a player with those capabilities. The best I could do is the link in the thread here and using a downloader but the picture is smaller. The smaller form show Coopers hand making contact and staying in place. When people punch or hit in that fashion, no one I know of leaves their hand in place as well as overall it looks like he began to "directly engage" Jones in a block since their bodies come together and don't separate. The larger I'd like to see in a player because it appears, as is, Cooper MAY HAVE been going for Jones' shoulder pad but Jones himself may have caused Cooper's hand to go higher.
Part of the reason I do understand Adam's reaction is he did seem to be slowing down when he saw the ball carrier go out of bounds but Amari, who might not have seen it since he was squaring to directly engage, continued full blast. Not saying Jones was right or wrong there, but I understand getting angry.
(09-17-2015, 06:36 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: What excuses?
That what people called a throat punch may have just been a stiff arm?
Did anyone say Cooper made a clean good football move?
No. He made an illegal football move and it should have been called. It wasn't.
Doesn't make what Pacman did any better or less shitty no matter what you call it.
The only place I disagree is the question of legality. Was it clean? I'd say no. Was it legal? Barring what I asked for above to further review I don't see any evidence. SHOULD it be illegal (the stiff arm)? Yes. Hands to the face needs to be expanded to include all stiff arms.
(09-17-2015, 06:38 PM)BonnieBengal Wrote: The thing that really concerns me is that afterwards he said he couldn't promise it wouldn't happen again. To me this means that everyone playing against him is going to be trying to provoke him into more personal foul penalties. He absolutely can't control his temper.
Agreed. I remember when I lived in the Chiefs market I'd see them against the Raiders twice a year. The Chiefs players in later years would admit to instigating outburst by certain players (like Chester McGlockton) to either draw penalties or get them fighting with each other.
