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(12-06-2018, 12:02 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You think Dalton is respected outside of Cincy? Because that’s not been my experience at all. I’m not even a big fan of the guy, but I’ve found myself defending him a lot over the years to people elsewhere online. Most seem to think HE’S holding the team back, not the other way around. They have no idea just how bad our OL is, or about Mike Brown, etc.

This is because many NFL fans are about as knowledgeable as the guys you would talk Bengals with on Facebook, and formulate their opinions around what the media tells them they should think. Especially with teams they don't even follow. 

(12-06-2018, 12:14 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Same. You can’t really blame people considering a lot of them only see his dreadful prime time and playoff performances. Or just look at his stats.

1. Carson Palmer was dreadful in Prime Time (75 passer rating - worse than Andy) and playoffs (58.3 rating in his only full start) as a Bengal. This shows that (a) Dalton wasn't alone in this problem under Marvin Lewis (shockingly, we've been losing thanks to many players underperforming) and (b) you can still think a QB is good even when he stinks in specific scenarios. 

2. Dalton's career stats aren't bad though. 12th among active players in passer rating and 2nd in 4th quarter comebacks since 2011. Dalton's career stats are on par with players such as Newton, Stafford and Luck. Better than guys like Eli (even since 2011), Flacco and Mariota . Guys like Kaepernick, RGIII, Freeman, Foles, Schaub, Sanchez, Bridewater, etc come and go while Dalton will still be starting in 2019, whether it be here or elsewhere.

I know I've already typed all this out, but I gotta be honest. I've lived in Michigan for almost 5 years now. I've talked to MANY Lions and Packers fans. Not once have I heard anyone say Dalton sucks. Many pointed out Dalton and Green as the "good players" they knew. They view Dalton similar to Stafford.