12-11-2018, 08:08 PM
(12-11-2018, 07:33 PM)GMDino Wrote: Evidence of something happening to her. The evidence that "backed up her claim" was the video she said she had and her two other witnesses. None of which was provided during the investigation.
I'm assuming that you would want to see more than just a bruise or an injury before you found someone guilty.
Wait, the evidence that backed up her claim were the physical injuries coupled with statements made at that time that Ellison abused her. I wasn't aware that your burden of proof now extended to video evidence. Also, I was informed by many that we're not trying to establish guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt" as this is not a criminal trial. I suppose that concept, like your selective outrage, remains highly mutable.
Quote:Oh! So in your very first accusatory post when you mentioned Cruz and, well, let's just read what you wrote:
"We believe survivors" is, I believe, the key point. Apparently such belief is highly selective as you so generously decided to represent.
Quote:First: "obviously tongue and cheek"Great CYA there sir!
But anyway, when you brought up Cruz which "survivor" were you referring to?
I believe the quote was survivors. Survivors is plural, survivor is singular. So when a group claims to believe survivors (plural) they state that all women who claim to be abused should be believed. Hence the people harassing Cruz were clearly not commenting on one particular person. Well, it's clear if your understand the mechanics of the English language.
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Quote:[url=https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/25/politics/ted-cruz-heckled-restaurant-brett-kavanaugh/index.html]I bet it was Dr. Ford who accused Kavanaugh...even if you "didn't bring him up".
I didn't, as explained above.
Quote:I put the hyperbole in bold in the statement I responded to. I figured the hyperbole guy would be here to say something about it. Maybe only Democrats use it in his view?
I don't think you know what hyperbole means. maybe you just use the term when you have no other argument? I can't say, but your understanding of the concept is clearly tenuous at best.
Quote:Or maybe it's just that you want to paint me as something with no proof so you just keep pounding a point until there is no point? So you just keep bringing up Clinton?
I'm not trying to paint you as anything. I've asked you on numerous occasions whether you believe the women who accused Bill Clinton of misconduct. In every instance you have refused to answer. If you're being painted you're also clearly holding the brush.
Quote:I certainly didn't expect him to find that you made a mistake or used hyperbole...no sir. That would be like saying you were wro....well...let's just say not 100% right.
Again, find an example and we can discuss right and wrong. Thus far you have not done so.
Quote:The point of the matter is you wanted to accuse "democrats" of not treating Ellison the same as...well...you didn't "bring up" Kavanaugh but instead mentioned others being harassed for their view on accusers. And, when shown that no one said Kavanaugh was guilty but wanted an investigation and that Ellison had an investigation and the evidence wasn't there, you turned it into...Clinton? I dunno. You're all over the place here.
I believe the point, which was clearly stated, was that "we believe survivors" clearly doesn't mean "we believe survivors". I think this thread has more than adequately demonstrated that. For that you have my thanks.
Quote:And I didn't vote for Ellison for AG of Minn. So maybe we have members from there you were specifically looking for answers from?
I wasn't commenting on people voting for him. I'm commenting on people who wouldn't call for his resignation due to his being credibly accused of beating a woman.
Quote:I'm sure you'll clearly explain yourself and how you were right andeveryoneleftists were wrong. I'll wait patiently.
The only people arguing against my point in this thread are you and Fred (shocking I know!). This hardly constitutes everyone. Maybe you need to feel you're part of everyone in order to compensate for something?
