Keith Ellison

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(12-11-2018, 08:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Wait, the evidence that backed up her claim were the physical injuries coupled with statements made at that time that Ellison abused her.  I wasn't aware that your burden of proof now extended to video evidence.  Also, I was informed by many that we're not trying to establish guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt" as this is not a criminal trial.  I suppose that concept, like your selective outrage, remains highly mutable.




"We believe survivors" is, I believe, the key point.  Apparently such belief is highly selective as you so generously decided to represent.



I believe the quote was survivors.  Survivors is plural, survivor is singular.  So when a group claims to believe survivors (plural) they state that all women who claim to be abused should be believed.  Hence the people harassing Cruz were clearly not commenting on one particular person.  Well, it's clear if your understand the mechanics of the English language.

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I didn't, as explained above.



I don't think you know what hyperbole means.  maybe you just use the term when you have no other argument?  I can't say, but your understanding of the concept is clearly tenuous at best.



I'm not trying to paint you as anything.  I've asked you on numerous occasions whether you believe the women who accused Bill Clinton of misconduct.  In every instance you have refused to answer.  If you're being painted you're also clearly holding the brush.




Again, find an example and we can discuss right and wrong.  Thus far you have not done so.



I believe the point, which was clearly stated, was that "we believe survivors" clearly doesn't mean "we believe survivors".  I think this thread has more than adequately demonstrated that.  For that you have my thanks.




I wasn't commenting on people voting for him.  I'm commenting on people who wouldn't call for his resignation due to his being credibly accused of beating a woman.



The only people arguing against my point in this thread are you and Fred (shocking I know!).  This hardly constitutes everyone.  Maybe you need to feel you're part of everyone in order to compensate for something?  

Well if you want to say you brought up the Cruz incident but in no way meant Kavanaugh because you put an "S" on the end I guess you will never admit you were wrong.

Have a great night!  I'm sure someone will be along to agree with you too!