Pelosi, Schumer To Trump: "Let's Debate Border Funds in Private"

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(12-13-2018, 05:54 AM)hollodero Wrote: I find it quite ironic that this is a distinct anti-wall article, stating things like 



...yeah that's what we usually find. I too wouldn't know of these European countries that have built an effective wall. Uneffective fences, we do have some of those.
What really helped reduce the immigration influx was Europe paying Turkey to keep the bulk of Syrian refugees in their country. That's what did the trick. Not a Hungarian fence.



But he pointed to remittance fees and the trade surplus, however that one can be tapped. But OK. I do think saying "hey we built a wall, hence Mexicans stay in Mexico on Mexico's expense, so Mexico paid for the wall" is lamer than what most supporters had in mind.

What I always wonder though, how helpful is it to further burden Mexico and hence make the country poorer. An increased immigration pressure seems like a logical consequence, cutting into the possible "positive" effects of a wall.

To the bold: Of course but no one on this board advocating for the wall also claims to be a supporter of Trump.  They just "have to" defend him. 

All seriousness aside you hit on something important:  It's not just R vs D right now.  It's people refusing admit they fell for the tag line, sales message and they got duped by a slick salesman.  So they will twist and spin to make it seem like Trump (and they) are still "right".

And that goes well beyond the limits of this message board.