Pelosi, Schumer To Trump: "Let's Debate Border Funds in Private"

[Mike M (the other one)]

(12-13-2018, 09:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No it will not.  A wall will not be that effective.  You can't compare European countries that had no barriers to the Mexican/US border that already has fences and walls.

They have ladders and ropes in Mexica so a wall will not keep them out.

Yes, I can compare them to European countries that use walls/fences to keep people out as examples.
We are not trying to keep people in, but to keep people out. That migrant caravan could be 10k strong, but they aren't going to charge a wall with any real attempt to get over.

Also why do you keep ignoring that we will have people watching for migrants with ropes and ladders?? We just won't need as many agents for that as we would for those driving and monitoring the borders.

Just who exactly is going to be using ropes and ladders? The common migrant? Doubtful.
These so-called walls and fences that we have in place are easily scalable or in the case of the fences, they cut their way thru. Put a real wall in there, show me how easy it is to scale or cut your way thru.


Also you have yet to offer a valid solution to keeping immigrants from coming over the border.

Actually, none of you have provided any method of doing so. Just keep arguing against a wall.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-hungary-fence/hungary-builds-new-high-tech-border-fence-with-few-migrants-in-sight-idUSKBN1692MH

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/235687

The Hungarian Prime Minister's Security Advisor revealed that since the construction of the wall bordering Serbia, the number of immigrants entering Hungary has dropped by 90 percent.

https://visegradpost.com/en/2017/05/15/the-indisputable-success-of-the-hungarian-border-fence/

Hungary – The second fence on the southern border of Hungary is complete. Hungary is now endowed with the most monitored border in Europe, whose effectiveness is indisputable.

Along the 155 km of the border with Serbia, the anti-migrant barrier has been reinforced with a second fence, motion detection systems and thermal cameras, and an asphalted road between the two fences. It took about 15 million euros to erect this second barrier. The cost of mobilizing soldiers and policemen at the border has not yet been established, but the results are there: since 28 March, no one has been able to cross the border illegally.