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Keith Ellison
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(12-17-2018, 11:34 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Not sure what your point is.  There is a difference between the actions of the two accusers.  I explained why one seems to be more likely lying than the other.  I provide facts to back up my position, not just political bias.  The woman claimed to have a video that would PROVE SHE WAS NOT LYING and refused to provide the video.

On the other hand you are so deep in your right wing echo chamber that you kept arguing that Ford's witnesses contradicted her claims when in fact Leland Kiaser told the Senate Judiciary Committee that she believed Ford's claim 

I don't think either woman had enough evidence to punish either of the men, but at least I waited until I heard the evidence to decide, and I based my decision on facts instead of speaking points from the echo chamber of my party.

If we're being fair, and I would hope we would be, we'd have to admit that the woman accusing Ellison did release evidence corroborating her abuse.  You are correct that she didn't release the video she claimed she had, but it would be wholly incorrect to say she provided no evidence to back her claim.

Btw, it's interesting that you phrased it as her having to prove she wasn't lying.  I guess we know which side of the "we believe survivors" line you fall on.





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Keith Ellison - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 12-11-2018, 01:35 AM
RE: Keith Ellison - 6andcounting - 12-11-2018, 06:32 AM
RE: Keith Ellison - Belsnickel - 12-11-2018, 09:34 AM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-11-2018, 03:17 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - GMDino - 12-11-2018, 03:34 PM
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RE: Keith Ellison - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 12-11-2018, 03:38 PM
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RE: Keith Ellison - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 12-11-2018, 09:48 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-11-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - bfine32 - 12-11-2018, 06:20 PM
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RE: Keith Ellison - bfine32 - 12-11-2018, 06:29 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-11-2018, 06:34 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - bfine32 - 12-11-2018, 06:38 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-11-2018, 06:44 PM
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RE: Keith Ellison - GMDino - 12-11-2018, 08:53 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-13-2018, 07:11 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - bfine32 - 12-11-2018, 06:03 PM
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RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-17-2018, 11:34 AM
RE: Keith Ellison - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 12-17-2018, 12:26 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-17-2018, 04:22 PM
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RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-17-2018, 11:41 AM
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RE: Keith Ellison - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 12-17-2018, 03:47 PM
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RE: Keith Ellison - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 12-18-2018, 11:37 AM
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RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-19-2018, 10:53 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - bfine32 - 12-19-2018, 11:31 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-20-2018, 11:37 AM
RE: Keith Ellison - BmorePat87 - 12-20-2018, 11:48 AM
RE: Keith Ellison - bfine32 - 12-20-2018, 02:28 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - BmorePat87 - 12-20-2018, 03:29 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - bfine32 - 12-20-2018, 02:27 PM
RE: Keith Ellison - fredtoast - 12-20-2018, 11:45 AM
RE: Keith Ellison - jj22 - 12-18-2018, 11:31 AM
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