Pro-Choice People: Babies Feel Excruciating Pain During Abortions

[Belsnickel]

(12-27-2018, 10:05 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: This medical expert says that pain the baby can feel pain because the neural circuitry is in place, so you can't ask a baby, but it seems pretty evident that being ripped limb from limb is pretty painful to a baby.

Especially since I'd have to think that babies still in the womb would be more sensitive to pain than adults or even children once they are born.

Are you seriously basing your argument here off of "we can't ask the baby, so we don't know if being ripped limb from limb is that painful"?





What are you basing that off of?  What gives you a better understanding of Dr Condic's opinion than theirs?  You don't think a baby being ripped limb from limb is excruciatingly painful?

An adult being ripped limb from limb would be excruciatingly painful, but you think a baby still in the womb can tolerate the pain more than an adult?


Challenge all you want, but you're the one making up pretty outrageous claims to fit your agenda.

Here's the issue: "Excruciating" is not measurable, it is subjective, and there is no way to determine that the neural architecture that is in place at 8 weeks of development is actually developed enough to sense variability in pain. we know the neural architecture is there in the CNS, but what about in the peripheral? Just because the network is in place to sense pain doesn't mean that it is in place throughout the fetus. Hell, even if the architecture is in place doesn't mean that the neurotransmitters are actually moving through the network.

The claims being made are by you and the article you posted, not by myself or Pat. Pat and I are literally saying that the evidence is not firm enough to make the claims you are making. That's it. There has not been enough evidence presented to defend your claims in an objective way.