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Pro-Choice People: Babies Feel Excruciating Pain During Abortions
(12-27-2018, 04:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Some would ask what difference does the word excruciating make in the context of the argument. it's simply a variance of a straw man. You are arguing something that is not the point because you have been presented evidence that counters your position. We can compare Red Team Degrees if you wish.

I haven't been presented any evidence that counters my position. As I have stated previously, whether a fetus feels pain or not is irrelevant to my position as it is one that is entirely based on rights. Without personhood, there are no rights. But to ask what difference the word excruciating makes to the argument we must look at the argument originally presented. The OP relies heavily on the adjective to make that appeal to emotion. I would argue that the word's use in the title and in the OP points to the inability for the word to be extricated from the argument and it is highly pertinent to the argument.
 
(12-27-2018, 04:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As yourself this:

Would you argue if the premise was Babies a fetus feels pain as early as 8 weeks?  If you answer No. then you are on the way the realizing your argue fallacy.

I would state that a fetus has the potential to feel pain at 8 weeks of development. But I've never disputed that in this thread.
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RE: Pro-Choice People: Babies Feel Excruciating Pain During Abortions - Belsnickel - 12-27-2018, 04:14 PM

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