So...where are all the interviews for Marvin Lewis?

[Essex Johnson]

(01-07-2019, 05:52 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. Many coaches could've "changed the culture" with that assemblage of talent + an owner willing to spend. That's my point. You think Coughlin or Denny Green wouldn't have turned that ship around with Palmer, Chad and all them? 

2. Yeah most of them were very young though, and Dick LeBeau was possibly the worst HC in team history, so...

3. Of course it was solid. Our drafts had been solid since Tobin was hired. Including the 2001 draft, which is the best draft in team history. All the team had to do was turn in the card for Carson (considered a no-brainer) and the rest was icing. It didn't take a genius to pick Palmer, and people are mistaken (IMO) for assuming Marvin was responsible for that when most evidence suggests Tobin has had more influence on our drafts.

4. Gotta disagree there. This roster is descending and getting older. O-line is a mess. The team Marv took over was young and on the way up. All young talent in Palmer, Chad, Housh, Rudi, etc. Very good o-line. Better cap situation with more free money to spend to fix the defense. 

3/4.  Totally disagree for a few reasons but make it simple.. We have two HOF In Green and Atkins, they still have a few years left, we have a proven veteran in QB for 2 years in Dalton, and we just had a good draft this year and at least some quality players the last couple.

In 2003, Palmer has never played a down, if drafting was that easy, no teams would ever miss on #1 picks and we know that is not true, TJ had not shown much in 2 years, hell people were writing Boyd off last year after up/down 2 seasons so no way you could predict what he would do, besides under Marvin he broke out in 2003 so did Chad.. another hmmm...how about Rudi.. nothing for 2 seasons, then breaks out in Marvins first year as coach.. another hmmm..  Tobin did a nice job drafting in 01/02 but it is not till Marvin comes in that those picks start to shine and Marvin coming in as a head coach for sure had say on draft picks no doubt in my mind.. FA have always been a big different because that is $$ MB has to shell out above and beyond rookie contracts so I agree Marvin was limited on those and he has admitted as much. 
I really believe Marvin would have left the Bengals early if he was having little say on draft picks especially after the early success he had turning the worse team around and getting to playoffs in 2005, he could have probably taken any open job after the first 3 seasons he coached here...

1.  You are assuming what might have happen with another coach.. the bottom line is Marvin did turn it around