ISIS Defeated?

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(01-18-2019, 05:36 PM)Au165 Wrote: This is why we tend to help install new governments through back channels more than wars. Unless we have a desire to spend 20+ years somewhere you are going to struggle to maintain what you built otherwise. Sometimes installing those new governments means putting bad guys in control because you know there "evil" vs the possible evil that could take control. People will say that is shitty but it's kind of the way the world has worked for hundreds of years. Not everywhere can function as a democracy, and some places simply don't want it, and that is just hard for Western countries to accept sometimes.

The has merit and you may ask yourself if the ME is more or less stable/westernized since Saddam Hussain was removed from power.

I still suggest nothing wrong with occupation; hell we're going on 70 years in Germany. Once the region experiences a truly Western culture in the ME; it'll grow like wildfire.

I know many of the folks over there fighting now are doing so in the hopes that their Children do not have to. I've often advocated moving permanent bases in the ME and remove them from Europe.