Now, the truth starts to emerge from some of the veterans..

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(09-22-2015, 01:39 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It's not the world that's different, the scenarios are completely different.  Germany was a first world nation with a long history of adherence to authority.  They were hijacked by a fringe movement fueled by resentment and the erroneous idea that the German people had been betrayed at the moment of triumph.  Some of the most positive national traits of the German people, their industriousness, their discipline and their already mentioned adherence to authority were perverted by a very unfortunate set of circumstances.  Somewhat ironically it were these exact traits that made the occupation so painless once the Germans were fully exposed to the weight of the crimes committed by the Nazi government.   One could make a very similar argument for the Japanese as well, although their cooperation was at least equally fueled by the call from their emperor to comply with the occupiers.

None of this applies to the areas of the middle east for several reasons.  They have no history of long stable governance.  They are a mish mash of different tribal and ethnic groups with very little in the way of national identity and what little cohesion as a group they do have is fueled by a religion that is currently being used to justify some of the worst atrocities mankind has witnessed in the modern age.  A religion that itself is experiencing a civil war between two major factions.  Quite simply it's a shit show and the only thing holding it together in the past was iron fisted tyranny, whether in the form of a strong man or a brutal theocracy.

So what do you recommend as an End Game?