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[Dill]

(01-31-2019, 12:59 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: In all seriousness, that is all we have for certain out in the public. We have to make extrapolations based on the information we currently have in order for it to link to collusion between Russia and anyone in the campaign. This isn't to say it didn't happen, or that Mueller doesn't have something firmer. This is just to say that we, as the public, don't have the information.

An email to Trump jr. promising "dirt" about Hillary ("I love it!), leading to a meeting with someone under direction of the FSB; that is not "extrapolation" but an attempt to collude.  

Beyond this, "all we have for certain" already supports some solid "extrapolation."  The number and frequency of contacts between Russian officials and operatives and members of the Trump campaign does not appear to be random--and not all of it was simply initiated by the Russians. Then add across the board forgetting or outright denial of contact. Add meetings between "unofficial" Trump representatives (like Devos brother, forget his name) arranged by foreign third parties to avoid US intel. And remember that while collusion can be witting or unwitting, unwitting does not deliberately avoid our own surveillance.

You are right to be cautious, wait for Mueller to tell us what is finally behind all the denial and obstruction, I just add that this is certainly not a witch hunt. Mueller is determing the degree, not the "whether," of collusion at this point.