I expect the coaching changes to give Dalton a new lease on his Bengals life

[BengalChris]

(01-31-2019, 03:59 PM)Wyche Wrote: All true, and I didn't consider the non playoff years in my very generalized post.  However, it is widely accepted that Gregg came in and cleaned up a bad culture.  I wasn't around in Kenny's early days.

There are plenty of guys like you that are objective about Andy, I hope you know I wasn't directing at you, or anyone else that looks at the situation like that.  I hope I've at least conveyed that to you in our numerous discussions on him.  I look at him objectively too, I feel anyways.  No one is disputing the postseason numbers....how could you?  I'm certainly not saying he's Kenny or Boomer, trust me.

Now, if this new staff comes in and cleans up the drive killing penalties and lack of discipline by others, and Dalton flourishes, and even wins a playoff game or two, then I think ya gotta give the man his due.  If he sinks, then we'll know it was partially him and partially Marvin that led to our demise in the playoffs so often.  Personally, I don't feel the team had what it took to even be in the playoffs in '11, but damned if they didn't make it in anyway.  I feel like Marvin just tightened up when the pressure was on for whatever reason, and his team reflected that.  Excited to see of the new regime can change that.

I don't feel like anything you said earlier was directed at me. Some times I get the "you are hating on Andy" comments, but it's generally when I point out the 1 TD, 6 INTs and 4 FUMs in 4 playoff games.

If the new staff gets things cleaned up and Andy puts together good "big" games then I will certainly give him his due. You can hold me to that.

I also feel Marvin was a problem come the post season.

I hope Dalton does well this season. I hope Bengals do well. I do believe this will be his chance to shine. But it does need to materialize.