09-23-2015, 04:07 PM
(09-22-2015, 12:33 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: And she is wrong. When your are a government official, your signature on a document like that has nothing to do with your personal views, only that the marriage is legal and valid according to the laws of the state. If she has a problem with stating something like that, then she should not be in the job she is in. No one is forcing her to be in that position.
Nondiscrimination laws and the legalization of SSM are two separate issues. I'm asking you about the legalization of SSM.
It's been explained to you, a number of times, on the old board. Marriage is very much a legal contract and so will always have government involvement. But, all of that doesn't answer my question. You stated government being involved in marriage restricts what we can and cannot do. Can you expand on that?
Ok will try and hit these. If I miss any Lemme know. It's hard when you break things up on my phone.
1. Never said the lady wasnt wrong. She needs to follow the law. Or get another to do it. This is easily fixed by making accomodations for her. Imo no reason she or anyone should need to sign off on a marriage except the two being married.
2. Non discrimmination laws are a joke as well. There for when people use them as hate or to exclude. Any business should be able to deny service unless for the crazy chance they are the only business within 40 miles of the area. Which is so ridiculously few. 40 miles is good. Most work commutes are similar. But a business should be able to deny anyone for religious, safety, or previous negative behavior. As it relates to SSM, the pro SSM people seem to want to wrap the two together so that's why I mentioned.
3. Ok last one. Lemme say this first before I get to the question. A contract between two people can sort out all legal issues. Maybe an attorney here can weigh in on specifics. Ok now for your question about restriction. in my county there are several things you have to meet before getting a license. It's more than just blood test and ceremony signing off. Proof of divorce, has to be 6 month waiting period after a divorce, plus a class. Sorry but this is a ridiculous amount of hoops. Yes I went through them. But none of this is needed when I could have called my attorney wrote up contract and submitted. These extra steps is nothing more than the gov being to involved. And the thing is this is probably a republican who did this and that's my problem with progressives. They think by forcing us to do things it will somehow make our lives better.
If I need to explain anything further pls let me know . I am traveling today so will check as we make our way south.
