Kim/Trump Summit Disaster

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(03-01-2019, 02:20 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Show me where I said I didn't have an opinion..

(02-28-2019, 07:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Once again no rational person thinks Kim is now more "legitimate" because Trump offered to have a second meeting and immediately walked out when NK did talk like we wanted them to. 


What happened to Otto was a tragedy and if the family is offended then I'm offended. A bunch of left wingers looking for another reason to hate is not going to do it. For all we know the family is grateful that Trump engaged in discussions about their son.

That said everyone knows you have an opinion.  No one on this board is ever shy about sharing their opinions.  Not even the posters that claim to "fair" and "unbiased".
What I said was hiding behind "empathy" and "training" is just a way to avoid saying something negative about DJT.  
But enough about you.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/28/otto-warmbier-what-president-trump-has-said-warmbier-north-korea/3014280002/

Quote:President Trump on Otto Warmbier: From 'brutal regime...we'll handle it' to 'I will take (Kim) at his word.'


President Donald Trump said Thursday he did not hold Kim Jong Un responsible for the death of Otto Warmbier, the Wyoming, Ohio, college student who died after being imprisoned in North Korea. 


In 2016, Warmbier, then 21 years old, was arrested and accused of committing a "hostile act" as he tried to leave North Korea. He was sent home to his parents in Ohio in June 2017 in a coma with a massive brain injury and died afterward.


Here's what Trump has said or tweeted about Warmbier. 

President Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un (Photo: Evan Vucci, AP)

 
June 19, 2017
In remarks before a meeting with technology CEOs:
"At least we got him home to be with his parents where they were so happy to see him even though he was in very tough condition ... A lot of bad things happened ... It is a brutal regime and we'll be able to handle it."

In an official statement that same day: 
"Otto's fate deepens my administration's determination to prevent such tragedies from befalling innocent people at the hands of regimes that do not respect the rule of law or basic human decency," Trump said. "The United States once again condemns the brutality of the North Korean regime as we mourn its latest victim."
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Melania and I offer our deepest condolences to the family of Otto Warmbier. Full statement: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/06/19/statement-president-donald-j-trump-passing-otto-warmbier …

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June 20, 2017
To reporters in the Oval Office: 
"It's a total disgrace what happened to Otto. It should never, ever be allowed to happen. And frankly, if he were brought home sooner, I think the results would have been a lot different."


Warmbier "should have brought home that same day ... I spoke with his family. His family is incredible ... but he should have been brought home a long time ago."


June 21, 2017
At a rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa:


"But you look at North Korea, what’s going — look at Otto, beautiful Otto,. Went over there a healthy, wonderful boy and you see how he came back. You see how he came back.


"Look at Otto, beautiful Otto. Went over there a healthy, beautiful boy."


Rally in Iowa: Watch President Trump discuss Otto Warmbier


Sept. 26, 2017 

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Great interview on @foxandfriends with the parents of Otto Warmbier: 1994 - 2017. Otto was tortured beyond belief by North Korea.

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Jan. 30, 2018
In his State of the Union speech, to which he invited the Warmbiers:


Otto Warmbier's family received two standing ovations during the speech. His parents, Fred and Cindy Warmbier, of Wyoming, Ohio, stood next to First Lady Melania Trump and wept as they acknowledged the cheers.


"We need only look at the depraved character of the North Korean regime to understand the nature of the nuclear threat it could pose to America and our allies," Trump said.


"Otto Warmbier was a hardworking student at the University of Virginia.  On his way to study abroad in Asia, Otto joined a tour to North Korea.  At its conclusion, this wonderful young man was arrested and charged with crimes against the state.  After a shameful trial, the dictatorship sentenced Otto to 15 years of hard labor, before returning him to America last June — horribly injured and on the verge of death.  He passed away just days after his return.


"Otto’s Parents, Fred and Cindy Warmbier, are with us tonight — along with Otto’s brother and sister, Austin and Greta.  You are powerful witnesses to a menace that threatens our world, and your strength inspires us all.  Tonight, we pledge to honor Otto’s memory with American resolve."

Parents of Otto Warmbier, Fred and Cindy Warmbier are acknowledged during the State of the Union address in the chamber of the U.S. House of Representatives January 30, 2018 in Washington, DC. This is the first State of the Union address given by U.S. President Donald Trump and his second joint-session address to Congress. (Photo: Mark Wilson, Getty Images)

May 10, 2018
Welcoming detainees from North Korea at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland:


"And I must tell you, I want to pay my warmest respects to the parents of Otto Warmbier, who was a great young man who really suffered. And his parents have become friends of ours. They are spectacular people. And I just want to pay my respects. I actually called them the other day, and Mike called them, also — Mike Pence.  And they are really incredible people."


June 12, 2018
In a news conference following his Singapore meeting with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un, the first summit between leaders of the two nations: 


"Otto Warmbier is a very special person, and he will be for a long time, in my life.  His parents are good friends of mine.  I think, without Otto, this would not have happened.  Something happened, from that day.  It was a terrible thing.  It was brutal.  But a lot of people started to focus on what was going on, including North Korea.


"I really think that Otto is someone who did not die in vain.  I told this to his parents.  Special young man.  And I have to say, special parents, special people.  Otto did not die in vain.  He had a lot to do with us being here today.  Okay?  Thank you very much."

Feb. 28, 2019
In a press conference Thursday in Hanoi, following the second summit between Kim and Trump, asked if he had brought up Warmbier's death with Kim:  


"I know the Warmbier family very well. I think they’re an incredible family. What happened is horrible. I really believe something horrible happened to him, and I really don’t think the top leadership knew about it.


"And when they had to send him home -- by the way, I got the prisoners back and the hostages back. The others came back extremely healthy but Otto came back in a condition that was terrible. And I did speak about it, but I don’t believe he would have allowed that to happen. It just wasn’t to his advantage to allow that to happen. Those prisons are rough, they’re rough places and bad things happened. But I really don’t believe that he was -- I don’t believe he knew about it.

"He felt badly about it. He knew the case very well, but he knew it later. And you’ve got a lot of people, big country, a lot of people. And in those prisons and those camps you have a lot of people. And some really bad things happened to Otto, some really, really bad things. He tells me that he didn’t know about it, and I will take him at his word."

This is why you don't have meetings with a dictator that kills his own people.
This is why you don't fly 8000 miles for a photo op with nothing negotiated.
Because when then you have to "make nice" with the dictator in front of the camera so you don't "fail".