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Bengals land G- John Miller
(03-21-2019, 02:14 PM)Au165 Wrote: Tyrod did well in Buffalo during a time period Dalton didn't play as well in Cincy. That is all I was showing with that compariosn. He said it was laughable to compare them and it really wasn't for that period. They are both mid level QB's Dalton maybe slightly above average Taylor probably slightly below....Allen not good currently. The real point was he was over selling how bad he was and I was trying to put it in context because he kept making excuses without any real facts.

Ok. I think where Taylor is at now (on the bench in San Diego LA) kinda shows what level he's on though. He's a top end backup, very low-end starter. Not mid-level like Dalton. I think most people would laugh at Ryan Fitzpatrick being compared to Dalton, yet I'd say Fitzy is a better QB than Tyrod. 

I look at the following and wonder if Tyrod's semi-successful Bills career was a fluke:

- He was a 6th round pick
- No one traded for him in Baltimore, where he spent 4 years as a backup
- The Bills signed him to a measly 3 year, $3.35 million deal
- He won the Bills starter gig by beating out EJ Manuel and Matt Cassel (yuck)
- The Bills benched him for Nathan Peterman (ouch) during their best season in 14+ years

- He's had significant playing time in 4 games with teams not named the Bills. He's 1-2-1 in those games with a 62.9 passer rating. The only win happened when he got hurt/benched mid-game and Mayfield saved the day. The difference was astounding. Taylor got sacked a whopping 13 times in only 85 attempts in 2018 (once every 6.5 attempts) and posted a 64.5 rating. Mayfield was sacked only 25 times in 486 attempts (once every 19.4 attempts) and posted a 93.7 rating. 

I think you could do far worse for a backup, and he can even serve as a temporary starter. So saying he's trash is a bit much...but the guy is not a mid-level starter and I wouldn't put too much weight on his passer ratings (or PFF ratings) from his Bills days. He's not really close to Dalton. Not that Dalton is amazing. He's just a solid mid-range starter, whereas Taylor is high-end backup material.

...and when I say "semi-successful Bills career", I say that because the guy averaged around 2900 yards and 17 TD's in Buffalo.
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