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Bengals land G- John Miller
(03-21-2019, 03:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I understand that point, but that was essentially 2.5 games compared to 3 full years with the Bills. Not every player adapts well into a new system, especially not right away. I guess if someone has proven themselves in the past on one team, I don't immediately write them off after just a few games with a new one. I guess I always scratched my head that a team that finally made the playoffs for the first time in like two decades ends up trading away the guy that got them there just to go with a very big project. It really destroyed the momentum for the Bills.

NFL teams feel differently, apparently. If they thought Tyrod was so proven, he'd have no problem finding a starting gig. I don't hate the guy. I'm indifferent. It is what it is. 2 teams couldn't wait to be rid of the guy. Now he's a backup. 

There are instances of guys stringing together 3 years of "decent" numbers, then falling off the map. I don't see any major injuries with Tyrod, so I'm led to believe that the Bills had a system that worked around his deficiencies. He essentially played a Mark Sanchez role on a middling team. They focused on run game and defense. 

Essentially, Tyrod is David Garrard. Or Kaepernick. Or Matt Cassel. There's been a plethora of guys who had brief runs of okay-ness. If NFL teams saw him as something more than that, he'd have teams lining up to sign him as starter.

(03-21-2019, 03:31 PM)Au165 Wrote: 3 years of success isn't a fluke. Your Bills comments after that don't matter at all because he played those seasons and turned in really good performances as determined by an unbiased 3rd party. Not much else to discuss the games were played and he was good. Where he is now doesn't change what happened. 

The whole Browns thing is funny by the way. Mayfield wasn't really good either until they fired Haley, but we all are running around pretending like that didn't matter lol.

There's a reason Taylor is on a bench right now. At 29 years old. 

If a guy has a decent amount of "success" (just another reminder that he averaged 2952 yards and 17 TD's) in one spot, but can't replicate it anywhere else, most would indeed consider it a fluke...or at least be open to that possibility. 

If you disagree, address each point I made.

Why was he a 6th round pick?
Why did no one trade for him in Baltimore?
Why did the Bills sign him to a paltry contract (initially)?
Why were the Bills so reluctant to pay him after he produced?
Why did the Bills bench him for Nathan Peterman (possibly the worst QB in NFL history)?
Why was he so awful in Cleveland (Mayfield was at least decent under Hue and wasn't sacked at such an astronomical rate)
And lastly...why the heck is a mid level (14-18) starter sitting on a bench? 
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
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